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QUOTE(a K r B @ Apr 11 2006, 12:17 AM) [snapback]336237[/snapback]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_beOsMMoLk...&page=3&t=t&f=bLOL, that SERIOUSLY guy deserves to die.
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NightPride911
Apr 11 2006, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(a K r B @ Apr 11 2006, 01:06 AM) [snapback]336244[/snapback]
What are they trying to say... IM SOO CONFUSED.
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I didn't watch it but i'm assuming it's a dealio talking about how the united states goverment was behind 9/11
NightPride911
Apr 11 2006, 01:07 AM
triple postage
mosher dude gets heel kicked in the jaw
http://tinyurl.com/foxbq
.dekkert.
Apr 11 2006, 07:53 AM
QUOTE(killafrojames @ Apr 11 2006, 06:29 AM) [snapback]336190[/snapback]
This is very good, thank you, I hadn't seen this one before.
ilike2racethesun
Apr 11 2006, 08:03 AM
QUOTE(.dekkert. @ Apr 11 2006, 11:53 AM) [snapback]336334[/snapback]
This is very good, thank you, I hadn't seen this one before.
yeah that was really amazing dude. i loved it
traci
Apr 11 2006, 08:15 AM
i don't know. this is kind of old, but i still think it's funny. this guy goes to ut.
http://www.mikekantor.com/bobby/
mark.
Apr 11 2006, 08:34 AM
The stars are aligned at the belt of the equator to where they fit into the Juneteenth of the freshest eagle I have ever seen!
WTF HAHAHA.
NightPride911
Apr 11 2006, 08:50 AM
QUOTE(traci @ Apr 11 2006, 10:15 AM) [snapback]336345[/snapback]
i don't know. this is kind of old, but i still think it's funny. this guy goes to ut.
http://www.mikekantor.com/bobby/ W T F.
haha. shit dude that was gud.
.dekkert.
Apr 11 2006, 09:45 AM
http://www.flabber.nl/archief/015834.php"Click to start", if some of you prove too retarded to figure it out.
I'm sure it's because I'm one of the foreign kids, but I had never seen this before.
robbot says:
Apr 11 2006, 01:50 PM
I WOULD NOT BE WRITING IN CAPS IF THIS WAS NOT ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY!!! Everyone must WATCH this, especially if you are american and are baffled by the 9/11 hijackings. Here's the website to the movie:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8...+change&pl=trueYES ITS AN HR AND 22 MINS LONG BUT EVERY MINUTE IS WORTH IT! I AM COMPLETELY DISGUSTED. With what? Watch the film and see...
here is the official website. www.loosechange911.com
towersinthesky
Apr 11 2006, 01:54 PM
I watched this today. Very interesting stuff.
.dekkert.
Apr 11 2006, 02:00 PM
While I did really dig the video, it doesn't take a lot of Google skillz to find things that question a lot of stuff these guys put in their documentary. And yeah this is how I spent part of my afternoon
Fact remains, we don't know shit and we probably never will.
xgabex
Apr 11 2006, 02:00 PM
old news.
James...
Apr 11 2006, 02:18 PM
Oh please...
The people who made this video are lying idealists.
Not only are 80% of their so called "facts" wrong...some of this shit is just outragious.
As soon as I saw the bit about the Cuban decoy planes, I knew these people were idiots.
That never happened...the whole thing was a made up conspiracy. I could go in depth on every one of these things they claimed happened, but almost everything they said was a lie.
Ridiculous...
.dekkert.
Apr 11 2006, 02:20 PM
If it wasn't 0.30 am right now, I would go and argue with you...
James...
Apr 11 2006, 02:22 PM
I'll wait.
towersinthesky
Apr 11 2006, 02:23 PM
While some of the stuff in the video maybe built on just speculation, there is some definite questions in that video that have been unanswered. I felt it was very thought provoking.
xgabex
Apr 11 2006, 02:24 PM
QUOTE(jbandy10 @ Apr 11 2006, 10:18 PM) [snapback]336519[/snapback]
Oh please...
The people who made this video are lying idealists.
Not only are 80% of their so called "facts" wrong...some of this shit is just outragious.
As soon as I saw the bit about the Cuban decoy planes, I knew these people were idiots.
That never happened...the whole thing was a made up conspiracy. I could go in depth on every one of these things they claimed happened, but almost everything they said was a lie.
Ridiculous...
oh really. well please how it all went down. i'd love to hear it all.
James...
Apr 11 2006, 02:24 PM
QUOTE(towersinthesky @ Apr 11 2006, 02:23 PM) [snapback]336523[/snapback]
While some of the stuff in the video maybe built on just speculation, there is some definite questions in that video that have been unanswered. I felt it was very thought provoking.
agreed.
QUOTE(xgabex @ Apr 11 2006, 02:24 PM) [snapback]336524[/snapback]
oh really. well please how it all went down. i'd love to hear it all.
you watched the newscasts...you tell me.
If you wanna argue, make your point. Don't ask me to argue for you.
.dekkert.
Apr 11 2006, 02:26 PM
QUOTE(jbandy10 @ Apr 12 2006, 12:22 AM) [snapback]336522[/snapback]
I'll wait.
Meh. Just watch the whole thing, dude. They're onto some good things here and they ask some good questions, that I would really like to see answered sometime. Because right now, some of this shit just really doesn't make any sense.
robbot says:
Apr 11 2006, 02:51 PM
i jsut finished watching this fully. there is no doubt in my mind that this is almost exactly what happened. it makes perfect sense in everyway.
untill proven otherwise, i would rather belive this...then what the fucking goverment tould us to belive.
Old news is so exciting.
xgabex
Apr 11 2006, 03:00 PM
QUOTE(jbandy10 @ Apr 11 2006, 10:24 PM) [snapback]336525[/snapback]
agreed.
you watched the newscasts...you tell me.
If you wanna argue, make your point. Don't ask me to argue for you.
why should i watch the news cast?
you just straight up wrote:
QUOTE
Not only are 80% of their so called "facts" wrong...some of this shit is just outragious.
As soon as I saw the bit about the Cuban decoy planes, I knew these people were idiots.
That never happened...the whole thing was a made up conspiracy. I could go in depth on every one of these things they claimed happened, but almost everything they said was a lie.
you come off like you know something we don't.
Not arguing, NOR was i telling you to argue for me. Just don't write something like you did and i wouldn't have hasseled.
a lot of that video hits good points and timings. whether its facts or not, YOU don't know and neither do we. And if you do, spit it out or shut up. So
ben
Apr 11 2006, 03:03 PM
fuck the man
robbot says:
Apr 11 2006, 03:09 PM
QUOTE(xgabex @ Apr 11 2006, 07:00 PM) [snapback]336545[/snapback]
why should i watch the news cast?
you just straight up wrote:
you come off like you know something we don't.
Not arguing, NOR was i telling you to argue for me. Just don't write something like you did and i wouldn't have hasseled.
a lot of that video hits good points and timings. whether its facts or not, YOU don't know and neither do we. And if you do, spit it out or shut up. So

pwnd?
Crazy Fuckin Paulie
Apr 11 2006, 03:20 PM
i actually just watched this today.
very interesting and i would agree that i'd rather believe this than George Bush or Dick Cheney or Condaleeza Rice or any of those fools
it all fits a little to nicely to be made up. especially the explosions in the twin towers. can that be explained any other way? and what about the pentagon footage? or flight 93?
i'd like some answers fo sho considering i'm in the army reserve and should probably be told as to why i'm heading to the middle east
Ian
Apr 11 2006, 03:23 PM
im glad 5% of the population will see this video and actually believe what it says. have fun wasting your time.
QUOTE(Paint @ Apr 11 2006, 07:20 PM) [snapback]336553[/snapback]
i'd like some answers fo sho considering i'm in the army reserve and should probably be told as to why i'm heading to the middle east
to kill insurgents. its a good time.
Crazy Fuckin Paulie
Apr 11 2006, 03:38 PM
by insurgents you mean the iraqi public right?
ben
Apr 11 2006, 03:40 PM
QUOTE(Ian @ Apr 11 2006, 06:23 PM) [snapback]336554[/snapback]
im glad 5% of the population will see this video and actually believe what it says. have fun wasting your time.
to kill insurgents. its a good time.
I'd like to see you out there.
Crazy Fuckin Paulie
Apr 11 2006, 03:46 PM
^werd
James...
Apr 11 2006, 03:46 PM
Alright I think it's time for me to clear up a few things.
Alright, so let's say this video is all right and it really was a conspiracy? It's purpose being to enrage our nation into going off to war. And like the video says, our government would use the excuse: "they hate freedom."
Wouldn't they just blow up the statue of liberty then?
And why the fuck would they line the building with explosives? Planes would be damn plenty to get your point across to the people, because the financial impact would be significantly less. If a plane hits the trade center, it's going to piss off some americans no matter what. (in other words, you don't need explosives to piss somebody off)
And don't try to use the excuse that the "sound" of the explosive devices going off is a dead give away. WTF DO YOU THINK A FALLING BUILDING SOUNDS LIKE?!
What I find really funny about this video is the selective use of eyewitness reports. They have some damn Xerox guy on there telling the cameraman what it sounds like? "Oh hey, well I think that sounds like multiple explosions! Maybe a bomb?!...or missiles!" Come on guys... When the fuck is the last time you heard a Xerox employee tell you what a series of bombs or a missile sounds like?! If he knew, HE WOULDN"T BE WORKING FOR XEROX!
And WTF is up with all these phone calls from "government agents"?! Oh yeah I believe that...yeah they called in and said they were a government agent...so they must know what they are talking about...oh yeah.
Let me put it this way... If your clicking channels on 9/11 and you turn to NBC or FOX or whatever, and they have video footage of the thing and they are telling you facts......then you switch to another news channel where they have some "guy" on the phone saying he's an agent from the pentagon and he says this was all set up and this big conspiracy is happenning, who are you going to watch?
But take some time and logically think that one out. Who's the liar?
Look guys...the fact is that the people who made this movie are a classic example of a bad inferiority complex gone worse. Before they made this video they were just average joe's looking for something to feel good about. They made this so they could "invent" their own little facts and so that they could feel like they knew some stuff that we all didn't. Childish don't you think? In effect we watched it and thought: Hey these guys are on to something and they know stuff that we didn't know...they must be special! So then we join their little conspiracy club and we're special too. But we're not as special as them because they came up with this shit and they're the smartest MFers in the world...
In conclusion I must say I was very impressed by this video but when it all comes down to it, 90% of it is just jabberwocky. And the rest...is up for you to decide.
FUBAR
Apr 11 2006, 03:50 PM
How do we know you're not some government agent trying to stop us from knowing the truth?!
ben
Apr 11 2006, 03:52 PM
What if I'm dreaming right now and when I wake up there will have never been a saosin forum?
Kid.
Apr 11 2006, 04:03 PM
QUOTE(jbandy10 @ Apr 11 2006, 04:46 PM) [snapback]336568[/snapback]
Alright I think it's time for me to clear up a few things.
Alright, so let's say this video is all right and it really was a conspiracy? It's purpose being to enrage our nation into going off to war. And like the video says, our government would use the excuse: "they hate freedom."
Wouldn't they just blow up the statue of liberty then?
And why the fuck would they line the building with explosives? Planes would be damn plenty to get your point across to the people, because the financial impact would be significantly less. If a plane hits the trade center, it's going to piss off some americans no matter what. (in other words, you don't need explosives to piss somebody off)
And don't try to use the excuse that the "sound" of the explosive devices going off is a dead give away. WTF DO YOU THINK A FALLING BUILDING SOUNDS LIKE?!
What I find really funny about this video is the selective use of eyewitness reports. They have some damn Xerox guy on there telling the cameraman what it sounds like? "Oh hey, well I think that sounds like multiple explosions! Maybe a bomb?!...or missiles!" Come on guys... When the fuck is the last time you heard a Xerox employee tell you what a series of bombs or a missile sounds like?! If he knew, HE WOULDN"T BE WORKING FOR XEROX!
And WTF is up with all these phone calls from "government agents"?! Oh yeah I believe that...yeah they called in and said they were a government agent...so they must know what they are talking about...oh yeah.
Let me put it this way... If your clicking channels on 9/11 and you turn to NBC or FOX or whatever, and they have video footage of the thing and they are telling you facts......then you switch to another news channel where they have some "guy" on the phone saying he's an agent from the pentagon and he says this was all set up and this big conspiracy is happenning, who are you going to watch?
But take some time and logically think that one out. Who's the liar?
Look guys...the fact is that the people who made this movie are a classic example of a bad inferiority complex gone worse. Before they made this video they were just average joe's looking for something to feel good about. They made this so they could "invent" their own little facts and so that they could feel like they knew some stuff that we all didn't. Childish don't you think? In effect we watched it and thought: Hey these guys are on to something and they know stuff that we didn't know...they must be special! So then we join their little conspiracy club and we're special too. But we're not as special as them because they came up with this shit and they're the smartest MFers in the world...
In conclusion I must say I was very impressed by this video but when it all comes down to it, 90% of it is just jabberwocky. And the rest...is up for you to decide.
I was sure that due to the length of your post
something you said would be worthwhile and/or valid. I was wrong. You're an idiot.
robbot says:
Apr 11 2006, 04:07 PM
agreed. i dont think you r actully watched the video.
James...
Apr 11 2006, 04:07 PM
QUOTE(Kid. @ Apr 11 2006, 04:03 PM) [snapback]336580[/snapback]
I was sure that due to the length of your post something you said would be worthwhile and/or valid. I was wrong. You're an idiot.
nicely put...
but rest assured, the length of your post made me think really hard about what I said
xgabex
Apr 11 2006, 04:18 PM
hahahaha
that was your "in depth" response?!!? you ARE a god damn idiot.
1. do you you actually believe what you see on TV? if so, you're the biggest idiot of all fucking time.
2. you didn't AT ALL explain anything to justify your reasoning about how "bogus" this video is.
3. a falling building doesn't sound like X-amount of bombs exploding. but can be more compared to an earthquake. and erthquakes don't sound like bombs at all.
4. you probably voted for bush, making you an idiot all around.
trickedthePigs
Apr 11 2006, 04:19 PM
case closed
James...
Apr 11 2006, 04:27 PM
QUOTE(xgabex @ Apr 11 2006, 04:18 PM) [snapback]336588[/snapback]
2. you didn't AT ALL explain anything to justify your reasoning about how "bogus" this video is.
are you blind?!
I ran all over that movie. I clearly stated that their so called "eyewitness reports" were all selective and how some were even fake.
I also said that many of the pre-9/11 omens they talked about never even happened...
QUOTE(xgabex @ Apr 11 2006, 04:18 PM) [snapback]336588[/snapback]
3. a falling building doesn't sound like X-amount of bombs exploding. but can be more compared to an earthquake. and erthquakes don't sound like bombs at all.
By saying this your telling me that you totally missed the point.
The VIDEO claims that there were explosives involved in this conspiracy. Not me you dumb fuck.
Thanks for making my arguement for me...
xgabex
Apr 11 2006, 04:32 PM
QUOTE(jbandy10 @ Apr 12 2006, 12:27 AM) [snapback]336595[/snapback]
are you blind?!
I ran all over that movie. I clearly stated that their so called "eyewitness reports" were all selective and how some were even fake.
I also said that many of the pre-9/11 omens they talked about never even happened...
By saying this your telling me that you totally missed the point.
The VIDEO claims that there were explosives involved in this conspiracy. Not me you dumb fuck.
Thanks for making my arguement for me...
you didn't at all "run all over this movie".
you summed it up probably from like the first 25 seconds of this film.
and you know for a fact that those people were fake? Really now? c'mon. be realistic.
I was there. so don't tell me who was fake and who wasn't. because even i wouldn't know that.
again, you didn't justify shit. now go fuck off.
trickedthePigs
Apr 11 2006, 04:32 PM
QUOTE(jbandy10 @ Apr 11 2006, 08:27 PM) [snapback]336595[/snapback]
I ran all over that movie. I clearly stated that their so called "eyewitness reports" were all selective and how some were even fake.
how would you know that? just because thats what YOU think does not mean its actually what happend.
Robert Hamburger
Apr 11 2006, 04:41 PM
This whole discussion is fucking ridiculous. What I see is a bunch of people who "hate" the government for no other reasons than "george bush is stupid" and "the war in iraq is unnecessary". Im sure glad older generations werent like this or we wouldnt be where we are today, we would barely be coming out of our third world shell and finally out from under English imperialism. I would write something longer and more succint, but I dont really feel like dealing with the mindset of "fuck the united states government, fuck the president, fuck what you see on tv, fuck mtv, and anything that is popular is bad".
Sound of Liberation
Apr 11 2006, 05:01 PM
Popular Mechanics did a piece that answered alot of the questions raised in Loose Change.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1230517.html
Robert Hamburger
Apr 11 2006, 05:08 PM
one of the best lines from the article:
"Don't get me wrong: Healthy skepticism is a good thing. Nobody should take everything they hear--from the government, the media or anybody else--at face value. But in a culture shaped by Oliver Stone movies and "X-Files" episodes, it is apparently getting harder for simple, hard facts to hold their own against elaborate, shadowy theorizing."
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