the patriots aren't even fair.

this is looking like last season big ben, i am disgusted.

4 fantasy wins in a row, it's like i'm the fucking ny giants of this shit.

In one of my fantasy leagues, I need Marvin Harrison to do nothing so I can keep the win. But in the board's league, I need him to score at least 7 points to win. I'm fucked.

i'll only lose if jones-drew puts up negative 17 tonight. not happnin'.

Someone do it.

Anyone on my team (aside from LT and Steve Smith) are available for trade if I get an offer good enough.

I agree that it is almost impossible to hate Tom Brady due to the fact that he is soooo good. I don't think you could say he's the absolute best to ever play due to the fact that it's impossible to compare him to anyone else because no other quarterback had anywhere near the offensive weapons that he has currently. But there also is no way his weapons on the field can take away his fantastic play this year; even though they do make it a hell of a lot easier for him, his accuracy is almost perfect - giving him an unreal completion percentage and a very low number of interceptions, those stats are almost entirely dependent on his personal play and skill, not that of his weapons.

But I do agree the Patriots make this footballs season a lot less fun to watch, because even if your favorite team plays awesome and beats a really good team, you will always know in the back of your mind that the Patriots would murder your team. I will personally get to watch them murder my Eagles in a few weeks in Foxboro.

how did joe montana/steve young/dan marino/brett favre/etc not have weapons? this weekend brady literally threw the ball up twice to moss that should have been intercepted or even knocked down but r moss beasted both of those db's.

if you're sayin brady has more weapons than manning you're crazy. they are pretty even i think, wayne/harrison/clark/addai compared to moss/welker/watson/unhealthy maroney. pats may have the edge with stallworth but i think that gonzalez kid does a pretty nice job.

Eh, I think the Patriots key position players on offense right now are at least as good, probably better than any of those other QB's named, it just makes a comparison difficult if it's not a level playing field. True Brady did chuck those 2 bombs up this weekend, but I would say that's more of a testament to Randy Moss's talent and Brady's confidence in Moss's talent (and size) that he would at least prevent the interception if he didn't make the catch. But the Dolphin's db's are bad and that's pretty embarrassing for them not being able to at least knock that ball down with double coverage; the credit for those 2 td's goes almost exclusively to Moss, not Brady.

I would say Brady has more, well maybe more is not the best word, instead i'll say better weapons than Manning/anyone else in the league (even if that makes me crazy). This is due largely in part to Randy Moss being head and shoulders above anyone else for best receiver in the league. Addai is definitely better than Maroney right now though.

I went stat hunting (Top Five Offensive players on the Colts and Pats (3 WR, 1 TE, 1 RB each)):

The Colts (Wayne, Harrison, Clark, Gonzales, Addai) have combined for:
16 TD's and 1,783 yds.

The Pats (Moss, Welker, Stallworth, Watson, Maroney) have combined for:
23 TD's and 2,128 yds.

I realize the Colts have been playing better teams that the Pats on the whole, but the difference in numbers is pretty significant. I think the choice is absolutely clear with who has more/better weapons.

I love talking football, let's keep this going. Any other topics?

Joe Montana had Jerry Rice and John Taylor at WR, Brent Jones / Dwight Clark at TE, Roger Craig at RB and even Tom Rathman at FB. Those were some serious weapons. I have about 10 years over a lot of you cats on here so I remember these guys, but you could always pop in Tecmo Super Bowl on your NES if you want a proper lesson in old school nfl rosters circa 1990. Anyway, Dan Marino had Mark Clayton and Mark Super Duper. Later in the decade, Steve Young had Jerry Rice and T.O. at the same freaking time. Brett Favre may have had the least amount of big names at his disposal, but over the course of his tenure he's had Sterling Sharpe, Robert Brooks, Antonio Freeman, Mark Chmura, Desmond Howard and Andre Rison. I guess the point is that even the greatest of QB's need a proper supporting cast to fully maximize their potential.

P.S. The whole Brady v. Manning talk is kind of ridiculous. It doesn't matter who you take. You can't go wrong either way.

it'd be nice if the giants could win this game and cover the spread...

5-2 baby.

Just back from Wembley, my first live experience with american football. It was pretty damn sweet, amazing atmosphere with 90,000 other people. I was personally rooting for the dolphins, underdogs like! Ill definitely try and watch more nfl if its not on at bizarre time.

You silly Euro's and your booing of the victory formation...

Hahahahah, ya I didnt boo, but I still dont understand what thats about?

Edit- I googled it, makes sense I guess...



Wembley is fucked for the next soccer match thats gonna be played there, the players dug so much of the ground up.. hahahahaha, now England definitely wont be qualifying for Euro 08!!!

fuck tom brady.

52-0... ouch

don't worry, there's still time for more damage

YEAH COOLEY!

i hate jon gruden and his bad game management & challenges, i hate tampa bay for losing for me 3 weeks in a row, i hate jeff garcia and his inability to make a play by constantly overthrowing wide open receivers, and i hate that i go from winning $250 for sure to maybe winning $20 - depending on whether or not green bay covers.

#(%*&#*(%&*@#(&%# MOTHERFUCKING TAMPA BAY GOOD FOR NOTHING COCKSUCKERS. i'm gonna go punch a wall and have an angry jerk session.

52-7

Redskins oughtta be ashamed of themselves

I'm glad the Pats ran it up. Joe Gibbs appropriately avoided Bill Belichick after the game

joe gibbs is a pussy and a hack.
he's a game-bungling bumbling buffoon.

should stick to nascar.

The Rams and the Patriots are on the opposite ends of ridiculous.

steelers rebounded decently, i was hoping for one more score, but oh well

3-5, and two losses to the Lions. This season has sucked so far.

anyone with stat tracker on yahoo, can you tell me if im tied 77-77?

so who was talking shit to me a few weeks ago when i said detroit could sweep chicago? I dont know if it was you, but somebody gave me shit for that statement. SUCK IT BOY

Billz.

Realistically the Bills could take down Cinci at home next week if they defense steps up, and then they have a date at Miami. The Bills could be 5-4 going into a sure loss against New England. 5-5 with this team would be spectacular. But what blows my mind is it could be 5-2 right now if they hadn't inexplicably collapsed against Denver and Dallas...

i'd make a comment about my saints, but i don't wanna jinx it.

Can't Jinx the Chiefs. We already have Herm Edwards as our coach.

squeaked one out this week in the fantasy league...7-1 HOLLA

I'm getting worked in that league.

Thankfully in my league with my friends where we all put in the cash flow, I'm raking in the wins. 5-3 which is good enough for 3rd place right now. Derek Anderson is my main man.

last place. my team blows chunks

If only Steve Smith had gotten me any points this week. Plus, you have Tom Brady, I didn't really stand a chance.

you may this weekend if the colts can shut him down. gonna be a realllly good game

the Colts won't shut him down

if anything they'd outscore the Patriots...but I don't see it happening

16-0.

prolly wont happen, but im rootin for the colts

uh my three WR and TE put up 3 points combined...it wouldnt have even been close if colston didnt catch 27 TDs yesterday and my receiving core decided to show up

Well I'm not matched up against him anymore so it's not my problem.



Ouch, I didn't see that earlier. Quite the surprise that burress got 0 points. and it was about time Colston did something for me, he's been putting up about 2 pts a game before this.

i need a real good receiver or runningback and i wanna trade eli for him. someone propose a trade...i know i already sent one to "angry dolphins"

i don't understand why you think anyone wants eli manning.

russ.. i know my team is awful but that trade is just as bad


edit: you have clark why do you want cooley?

someone friggin take manning

steelers over baltimore by at least two scores on monday, guaranteed.

Mannn SD just fell apart.

lions devour the broncossss. now the game of the week, pats verses colts. opinions on whos gonna win? im holding it down for the colts.

I want colts.

Same