I couldn't find an MMA thread.
So I made one.

Some thoughts on the fights tonight:
Heath Herring is an idiot.
I bet he didn't do any research at all on that fight.
He just went in thinking they would set him up with a stand up fighter to "bring the excitment."
See him trying to get the ref to put him up when the guy had side control? Give me a break. What lame fighter, I have no respect for that guy.

Glad to see Ed Herman win, definately not the cocky kid he used to be and he's better for it.
I'm looking forward to seeing more of him.

Next fight should be interesting, but I can't see it being that exciting.

chuck chuck chuck chuck chuck

People from Nova Scotia are fun.

fixed

HOLY SHIT THAT KICK WAS INSANE.

Rashad Evan "Cro Copped" Sean Salmon right in the head.

overrated overrated overrated overrated overrated

For anyone who missed the kick:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYJ7BamP8fs


There you go.

A lot of atheletes/wrester who turn MMA often do improve very quickly.
The difference with Rashad is that he has been able to actually implement his new skills in the ring.
You see a lot of these type of fighters lose their game plan once they enter the ring and fall back on wrestling everytime.

mirko mirko mirko mirko mirko

Neil knows what's up.

Personally, I can't wait. It's going to be such a good weekend for sports (Saturday, UFC pay-per-view/Sunday, Super Bowl). If anyone has a Buffalo Wild Wings, and you have nothing to do or don't feel like throwing down money, hit em up because they might show the PPV there (they do here, at least).

And Robb, it says that the clip has been removed.

UFC pay-per-views here are fucking mental.
Last one we went to Local Heros (sports bar), and had to stand. Called the other locations, same thing. Called fucking Boston Pizza, same thing. And so on down the list...
In retrospect we should've stopped pre-drinking and gone at a decent time (like 3 hours before it started), but ah well.

that evans kick was awesome. i was reading on another site that salmon was knocked out in the octagon for 7 minutes and they took him off in a stretcher.

this next ppv should be pretty awesome though. hopefully we will see some highlight reel knockouts from cro cop and rampage.

I won't be able to see it most likely so I'm pretty bummed. Someone tape it or something because youtube is fast at taking off UFC fights.

ufc should put it on the net afterwards for like half price, they'd probably get a whole lot of extra orders that way.

Put it on the net for half the price when you could probably find it leaked somewhere?

But yeah, I'm STOKED to see Mirko make his debut. Such a strong fighter and I never actually thought he'd make it over but yay, I'm a happy Asian.

Sucks to be you Neil.

+Cro Cop's the man

+Rampage, okay debut fight, but I see him taking the belt from Chuck down the line.

-Lutter's a bitch, I'm glad he got his ass kicked handed.

anyone wanna take me on, UFC-style?

Bring it, bitches!

Don't be dumb.

I was disappointed with the lack of upsets tonight, but all in all I enjoyed it.
Some quotes of the night:
"I hurt marvin then said Its Time For Black on Black Crime, so I finished him" -Rampage
"Thank you everyone who boo'd me. I'll be back again and you can boo me." -Cote

I really don't like the booing that was going on, it was completely uncalled for.
I wish they would kick out all the dumbass rich assholes at PPV events and let the real fans go.

When Cote rocked Smith a lot of people were upset that he didn't finish him. However what a lot of people did not notice is that Scott Smith was only rocked for a very short period of time. Scott was actually feigning dizziness for the rest of it, trying to lure Cote in for a "Sell-like" finish. Cote actually picked up on this and moved his finger in a "no no" motion.
On top of that you have to consider that if Cote lost tonight he would probably never fight in the UFC again. That is a BIG deal.
So Cote's hesitation to finish was definitely understandable, he played a safe fight and while that may not have made for an impressive victory, at least we will see him again.

Cote fought a great fight and his decision to not be lured by Smith's sucker ass possum plays were right on (and I was actually rooting for Smith too). Bottom line, Smith needs to stop playing those games and know that the special tactics that he and Shonie Carter (spinning back fist) cannot pull off finishing moves like Mortal Kombat.

And to reason with the booing, I can kind of relate as I was booing at the screen when my dude would puss out/do stupid things. I had beers on the line and I'm sure the rich folk at the arena had +$1,000 bets so if a guy wasn't pulling his weight, they were just angry. Now given, that's no reason to heckle the fighters (that is, except Lutter that evening) because they are in tip top shape and can kick virtually anybody's ass, but like I said, I do know where they're coming from.

Overall though, I agree. I had a great time tonight and seeing Mirko and Rampage make their debut was awesome. See ya next pay-per-view.

Yeah, so I was actually there.

You know that John Haselman or whatever? The one that got knocked out in 19 seconds? Yeah, we were sitting next to his gf, and tried not to laugh when it was over. But we were glad, because she was annoying and tried to make it seem like she knew everything about UFC and hyped her bf up like crazy.

And then all of Eastmans family were sitting directly behind us.

Also, the only reason I didn't like the Cote fight was because there were a bunch of fucking french-canadians sitting to our right.


PS- Cro Cop fans are crazy. Seriously.

A part of me wants to see mirko and arlovsky go at it for the title sometime in the future but a part of me doesn't. They are my two boys and I'd love and hate to see them kill each other.

I'm in the same boat man. I love both of those fighters, would love to see it some day but also wouldn't because there's only one winner.



teehee!

No, but I feel bad for the loser's family/friends who come and support them. That must be extremely embarassing not to mention depressing. That's awesome that you got to go though.

PS: I was really really impressed by all the Croatia in the arena.

a-whooooOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so I'm a huge UFC/MMA fan and have bought probably the last 20-25 UFC pay per views

I watched Rampage demolish Chuck in Pride in Nov 2003, but I wasn't expecting such a fast clean knock out by Rampage

He wasn't affected by Chucks unorthodox rhythm and fighting style, stalked him around the ring and capitalized with a right counter hook that sent Liddell to the canvas and Rampage just tuned up Chuck's face after that

the undercard was WAAAY more exciting than this fight, Keith Jardine got fucked up real nice

good night for the UFC though

Liddell will probably go against Wanderlei Silva next

i was going for rampage the whole time. my friends were like "nah chucks got this" n when that happened i about threw my chair across the place i was so happy haha. it was amazing, and i hate that chris leban kid god that kid is fucking annyoing. but yeah PRIDE fighers >UFC fighters. i havent been on here in a while so hello again

That was nuts man. Can't wait to see hendo tear some ass.

I hope BJ puts Jens in a coma

Everyone knew that without a doubt this wouldn't end in submission or even get to a decision, but yeah, I definitely didn't expect a knockout like that so early. I'm kind of glad that it was so fast though so that the totally oblivious Lidell supporters can finally shut the hell up.

I was also definitely satisified with the undercard and every match did not let you down especially that Jardine beat down Holla atcha St. Louis boys who'll beat down people with awesomely bad monikers (Dean of Mean).



We were at the Buffalo Wild Wings and the place was too loud. I couldn't hear a thing he said.



Neil, if you or anyone could give me a link to the post-fight interview, I'd appreciate it.



fucking right

bump


The Stacked Card is this upcoming Saturday, here's who I have:



Rashad Evans (Record: 15-0-0) Vs. Tito Ortiz (Record: 16-5-0)

WINNER: Tito Ortiz, late 2nd round, ground and pound TKO

Nate Marquardt (Record: 28-6-1) Vs. Anderson Silva (Record: 18-4-0) *MIDDLEWEIGHT CHAMP*

WINNER: Silva, 1st round, Knees TKO

Hermes Franca (Record: 19-5-0) Vs. Sean Sherk (Record: 35-2-1) *LIGHTWEIGHT CHAMP*

WINNER: Sean Sherk, 2nd round, submission

Heath Herring (Record: 27-12-1) Vs. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (Record: 29-4-1) *UFC DEBUT*

WINNER: Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, 1st round, KO

here's the whole card:
http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=eventDetai...ard&eid=677

I agree with your Tito call.

You may want to go watch Marquardt's fights from when he was the 7 time Pancrase champ before you call him going out like a bitch in round one. I still think Silva will pull it off.

Do you really think a wrestler will sub a BJJ black belt? I call Sherk by TKO ground n pound in round 2 if anything.

I don't think big nog with get a KO on Heath. I think he'll sub him in the 3rd or it'll go to a decision.

I like this MMA thread though. Pretty kick ass.

Silva's knees are vicious, but in reality, I don't think that's going to TKO Marquardt, especially with knees however they are going to be a prelude to Nate's demise that night. Personally, I think this bout is going to be one of the more intense fights of the night because Silva's not one to go to decision and Marquardt likes to go the distance. I'm hoping Silva retains the belt, but you're right when you're saying that Marquardt's not a chump.

As for Sean Sherk submitting Hermes Franca, I'm just going along with his style of fighting. Sherk, in his last 7 of 11 has ended his fights via submission. I'm not impressed with Hermes at all and I think that he just likes to throw sloppy/unorthodox haymakers. His BJJ may be good, but I think Sherk will daze the hell out of him, take him to the floor, and eventually, grab the submission.

I could definitely see Big Nog ending his night via submission or decision too, it'll be interesting to see him debut in the UFC and the crowd's reaction. :-/ I felt like when they first announced his signing at UFC 69, there wasn't a lot of enthusiasm but Big Nog's definitely a force to reckon with in the MMA world.

I just started training at a MMA gym, the same gym joe Lauzon (sp?) from this seasons ultimate fighter... most fun ive ever had

Train with him while you can, I heard he's going to Hawaii finally to train with B.J.




I like Silva as being the champ. Marquardt's a boring fighter IMO.

Sherk has a weak guard. I think Hermes will be able to expose Sean's weakness come Saturday. I think Hermes is better on the ground than just good, so I don't see Sherk subbing him. I think Sherk will end up having to pound his way to victory via TKO stoppage in 2nd or 3rd.

I've seen Big Nog vs Herring 2wice already, so I'm not too excited about it, but then again, it was supposed to Big Nog vs Justin McCully before Heath. Therefore, I'm thankful.

Good talking with ya.

someone who knows who fedor is, please comment on this photo





other notables

Sean Sherk (recent champion) and Hermes Franca got suspended and fined for anabolic steroids this past week

Heard about it.

Suspended for a year which, I speculate, will most likely mean that Penn's next bout will be for Sherk's vacated belt.

Neil, I see you online buddy.

Have you been keeping up? If so, how did you feel about the last Couture fight/how stoked are you about the Rampage/Hendo bout next weekend?

edit: actually, this goes out to anybody else who wants to discuss/watches mma or the ufc.

i think the UFC is going to change big time with Rampage because if he stays on top, it's not really a good reaction with the crowd

i mean the guy came in a annihilated Liddell, the face of the UFC

don't get me wrong, I can't wait to watch Hendo and and Rampage go at it, it should be great, but things are going to be a lot different from here on out

once Pride and K-1 see how successful their champions have been in the UFC, everyone's gonna want a shot/money

I shit myself in a fit of joy as couture manhandled napao. I can't wait for the hendo/page fight, should be a good one. I'd say hendo will kill him but you never know, anything can happen with a guy like page.

I'm also hoping for cro cop and bisping wins.

Hahaha, I'm just in awe when I see a man well in his 40's, go into two consecutive fights, and absolutely demolish two guys who are just physical beasts.

As for the next PPV, I'm with you on all three of those picks. I have Hendo over Rampage (wagering a twelve pack of anything on this fight) simply because of that powerful right hand and Rampage doesn't exactly have the hardest head in the game.



You really think that it's going to really change just because Rampage is the champion now? I think Dana White is doing a good job of marketing his company into a wider audience. People who don't watch this stuff are only in it for the superstar aspect.

Meanwhile, the die hards of MMA are watching Wandy, Shogun, and soon supposedly, Fedor being signed over from Pride. Obviously, Dana can't control who stays on top, but he's bringing in more intense fighters to fertilize his product.

PS: K-1 fighters have been in the UFC/Pride before buddy. Fighters, K-1 or not, are going to look for a different alternative than JUST kickboxing/boxing/wrestling and that alternative is going to be the UFC because it can draw a large purse if they win the fight/promotion & endorsements from companies.

I'm really liking the direction that the UFC is heading in. The light heavy weight division is getting so damn good. Silva, Rua, and Henderson will make that division so competitive. The potential matches are awesome. I'm dying to see Rampage and Shogun go at it again and Chuck vs. Wanderlei has been in the making for a while now. With the possibility of signing Fedor, the UFC is going to reach new heights. Can't wait.

no, i'm saying that just to blow smoke up your perforated asshole.



i'm talking about the superstar/fan relationship after Rampage beat Chuck Liddell, if Rampage stays on top for a while, people won't like him, the man is a dickhead and everyone knows it


don't give me that "buddy" shit you condescending little prick, i'm talking about major recognizable faces in Pride and K-1 coming over right now. People from Pride came over before UFC got majorly popular. I never said that ANY fighter didn't want to come to the UFC.

not to mention, European/Asian fighters get treated extremely well in Japanese fighting events.


I love people like you who think you're a "huge" MMA fan know everything about running the UFC, it's fucking elitist, just like music

or, people fight in a cage and people watch it to see nutter head kicks, and for future, non-fight related use of the term "ground and pound".

don't get that into it.

This thread makes me laugh.

Fun Fact: UFC is somewhat broke right now and had to make a ton of cutbacks.

Bisping stole that fight from Matt Hamill

Dan Henderson looked explosive in the first round, but Rampage beat him at his own game on the ground

over all not a bad night, would have liked to see some knock outs though

I thought Matt Hamill killed Bisping.

hahaha, never saw kyle's post from before but uhhh, i'm going to refrain from posting anything about tonight because apparently anything i say calmly and politely will come off as condescending and elitist.

please do.

What a bummer of a night.

Marcus Davis fight was probably the best and rampage vs hendo was okay, though I would gave the fight to hendo. I would hardly say that rampage beat hendo at hiis own game.