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Barto1127
So...what albums do you think bands should re record?

I'll throw a couple out there...

Alexisonfire - "Alexisonfire". I love this album, but I think they sound a lot different now and I think if they redid this album, it would sound 10x better than the one now.

Boys Night Out - "Make Yourself Sick". Just like the reason above, both just sound old and a little raw.
john
Maybe the rawness is what defines it? Besides, I've never listened to either band, but they both seem like they kind of suck (though I could be wrong).


Personally, I think the Chili peppers really need to release a remastered version of Californication and By The Way. The compression on both of those albums is so god-awful, that I can never blast it without it getting all staticky and shitty.
xXx Tears of a Phoenix xXx
rerecord or remaster?

remaster:
radiohead - kid a
thrice - the illusion of safety
versus the mirror - home
saosin - ttn

rerecord:

hot cross - cryonics
blink-182 - chesire cat
nofx - punk in drublic
brand new - your favorite weapon
SPACE GHOST
Any black flag / minor threat shit.

oh and YFW doesn't need to be touched. ever. it's gold.
john
QUOTE(james. @ Dec 2 2007, 10:37 PM) [snapback]647448[/snapback]

remaster:

radiohead - kid a
saosin - ttn

You serious?

I do agree that it'd be cool to have an Illusion of Safety that at least had updated vocals.

And Ricky, Minor Threat's music could never really be 'recorded' to accurately reflect their awesomeness in the first place, so methinks they're a lost cause.
xXx Tears of a Phoenix xXx
yeah kid a is rough around the edges. it's part of it's charm, but it'd be interesting to see what they'd do if they revisited it.

are we going by current band lineups or band lineups when the album was recorded?
Ddjembe Mutombo
mineral - the power of failing

/thread
Bobby
Notorious BIG - Ready To Die
Nas - Illmatic
john
QUOTE(james. @ Dec 2 2007, 10:48 PM) [snapback]647460[/snapback]

yeah kid a is rough around the edges. it's part of it's charm, but it'd be interesting to see what they'd do if they revisited it.

I emphatically disagree with that statement. I strongly feel that songs like Everything In Its Right Place, Kid A, Idioteque, and Morning Bell wouldn't be the same if they re-recorded it.

I could see them re-recording stuff like The National Anthem though.
carrie
Definitely agree with the Illusion of Safety and Your Fav Weapon. I also thought that Second Stage Turbine Blade should have been remastered... then I found out it was.
suspense
Thursday - A City by the Light Divided

And I definitely agree with the Alexisonfire S/T, I'd so lvoe to hear that in great quality.
john doe coolsauce
QUOTE(carrie @ Dec 2 2007, 09:27 PM) [snapback]647502[/snapback]

Definitely agree with the Illusion of Safety and Your Fav Weapon. I also thought that Second Stage Turbine Blade should have been remastered... then I found out it was.

can someone hook me up with remastered SSTB?

oh and so it wont be a wasted post,
de-loused in the commatorium.
shyne po
QUOTE(-john @ Dec 2 2007, 10:30 PM) [snapback]647441[/snapback]

Maybe the rawness is what defines it.


love that album. their newer stuff is tougher for me to get into
john
QUOTE(andre @ Dec 2 2007, 11:32 PM) [snapback]647507[/snapback]

de-loused in the commatorium.

Care to elaborate? Just 'cause, you know, that's my FAVORITE ALBUM OF ALL TIME AND ITS PERFECT AS IT ISSSSSSS

Seriously though, why do you feel that way?
john doe coolsauce
yeah its in my top 5,
i would just be interested to see how they would do it now,
plus omar producing it this time around.
carrie
QUOTE(andre @ Dec 2 2007, 11:32 PM) [snapback]647507[/snapback]

can someone hook me up with remastered SSTB?

oh and so it wont be a wasted post,
de-loused in the commatorium.

I second this request- but not so much the idea of a remaster de-loused.
john
QUOTE(andre @ Dec 2 2007, 11:36 PM) [snapback]647511[/snapback]

yeah its in my top 5,
i would just be interested to see how they would do it now,
plus omar producing it this time around.

Honestly, I feel like Omar's anal production methods are part of what's messing up their newer albums.
Ddjembe Mutombo
QUOTE(carrie @ Dec 2 2007, 11:27 PM) [snapback]647502[/snapback]

I also thought that Second Stage Turbine Blade should have been remastered... then I found out it was.

I thought they just reissued it with a b-side...
dick.
is the remastered the one with the bonus songs? if it is, i can up it at 320.
john doe coolsauce
QUOTE(-john @ Dec 2 2007, 09:37 PM) [snapback]647513[/snapback]

Honestly, I feel like Omar's anal production methods are part of what's messing up their newer albums.

well if they remastered deloused, then we would be able to see the complete effects of his productions and compare and actually decide what caused the messing up of newer albums.
Ddjembe Mutombo
...and sparta and TMV should stop playing grabass and reform ATDI.
john
I'm pretty sure The Mars Volta don't even really need the two members of Sparta. They could just hire two random dudes if they wanted to 'reform' ATDI.
Ddjembe Mutombo
QUOTE(-john @ Dec 2 2007, 11:53 PM) [snapback]647527[/snapback]

I'm pretty sure The Mars Volta don't even really need the two members of Sparta. They could just hire two random dudes if they wanted to 'reform' ATDI.

I don't know, all of the tracks would sound really experimental for ATDI. They need old jim to hold them down a bit.
Note
I'm surprised this hasn't been said but

Underoath- The Changing Of Times(with Spencer)

It wouldn't be as good as Dallas but Spencer use to have to do all those songs so it would be cool to hear.
john
I really dislike Dallas Taylor's voice for some reason. It sounds like a cat getting stabbed in the urethra.

Furthermore, the dude has absolutely no range whatsoever. He can't sing, he can't vary his screams. All he can do is that one note yelp of his, interspersed with some spoken word.
B-ryon
Second Stage Turbine wasn't remastered, as monty said i believe it was just rereleased. wish it had been remastered.
adam.
From First to Last's album. oh wait.

on a serious note, taking back sunday - tell all your friends. this is like, the worst production job on a cd i can remember.
Lori
rerecord: Waxwing - One For The Ride
remaster/rerelease: These Arms Are Snakes - This Was Meant To Hurt You
tgrokz
QUOTE(adam. @ Dec 3 2007, 06:29 AM) [snapback]647578[/snapback]

From First to Last's album. oh wait.

on a serious note, taking back sunday - tell all your friends. this is like, the worst production job on a cd i can remember.

its really strange you said that, because i listened to that cd today on the train for the first time in so fucking long, and i was thinking about how poor the mixes are. it was even recorded so shitty that whenever the vocal tracks are active, theres a very high pitched tone. you can hear where the cuts in the track were made, seeing as the tone cuts in and out.

as for cds i want remastered, theres way too many to list.
john
Blindside - The Great Depression

I know most people hate this album anyway, but I'm sure that if it didn't have such god-awful mixing the album would have been at least somewhat better received.
adam.
QUOTE(tgrokz @ Dec 3 2007, 01:39 AM) [snapback]647586[/snapback]

its really strange you said that, because i listened to that cd today on the train for the first time in so fucking long, and i was thinking about how poor the mixes are. it was even recorded so shitty that whenever the vocal tracks are active, theres a very high pitched tone. you can hear where the cuts in the track were made, seeing as the tone cuts in and out.

as for cds i want remastered, theres way too many to list.

yeah it's a damn shame, it's a wicked cd. i love how when i listen to it in the car i can hear this insane high pitch tone when it goes from chorus to quiet verse to loud emotional ending
lambchopthis
QUOTE(-john @ Dec 2 2007, 09:30 PM) [snapback]647441[/snapback]

Maybe the rawness is what defines it? Besides, I've never listened to either band, but they both seem like they kind of suck (though I could be wrong).
Personally, I think the Chili peppers really need to release a remastered version of Californication and By The Way. The compression on both of those albums is so god-awful, that I can never blast it without it getting all staticky and shitty.

Word on Californication and By the Way. Those albums sound like shit recording wise. Alhough, I'm not much into the Peps anymore, so it doesn't bother me as much.

What really needs to remastered/remixed/reproduced altogether is Thursday - A City By the Light Divided
God, that album would sound about ten times better if it weren't so muddy.
john
Though I think that album is dogshit to begin with, I do agree that when your band's only real saving grace is the vocalist, making him sound like he's underwater for every vocal take probably isn't the best idea.
lambchopthis
QUOTE(-john @ Dec 2 2007, 10:37 PM) [snapback]647513[/snapback]

Honestly, I feel like Omar's anal production methods are part of what's messing up their newer albums.

In a sense, I agree with you in this sentiment. I mean, the drums were ridiculously low in the mix on Amputecture. In parts of songs where you have vocals, crazy solos, and several other things going on in the song, the drums are sitting in the background, seemingly inaudible.

QUOTE(-john @ Dec 3 2007, 01:12 AM) [snapback]647601[/snapback]

Though I think that album is dogshit to begin with, I do agree that when your band's only real saving grace is the vocalist, making him sound like he's underwater for every vocal take probably isn't the best idea.

Did you just call Geoff Rickley Thursday's saving grace? Most people would argue the opposite, that Geoff is fucking terrible and that the band's musical abilities are what keeps them interested. Then, there are those who can stand neither.
john
QUOTE(lambchopthis @ Dec 3 2007, 02:15 AM) [snapback]647604[/snapback]

In a sense, I agree with you in this sentiment. I mean, the drums were ridiculously low in the mix on Amputecture. In parts of songs where you have vocals, crazy solos, and several other things going on in the song, the drums are sitting in the background, seemingly inaudible.

Plus, what the fuck was the point of John Frusciante in guesting on guitars if he's going to make them exactly the same if Omar had just done them himself? I mean, I guess I understand Omar's need to 'distance' himself from the music, but at least Flea's bass playing on De-loused gave it a unique flavor. I just feel that if you're going to guide a very prolific player into making it sound exactly as you want it to, why not just do it yourself?

QUOTE(lambchopthis @ Dec 3 2007, 02:15 AM) [snapback]647604[/snapback]

Did you just call Geoff Rickley Thursday's saving grace? Most people would argue the opposite, that Geoff is fucking terrible and that the band's musical abilities are what keeps them interested. Then, there are those who can stand neither.

I actually can't stand Geoff anymore myself, but I thought that the general consensus was that Thursday would have just been another band lost in the crossfire without his undeniably unique voice.

I guess its like Billy Corgan with the Smashing Pumpkins. Plenty of people probably hate him and his shiny head, but it can't be denied that without him the Smashing Pumpkins wouldn't be what they are.


Anyway, for the sake of keeping this thread on topic, other albums that could definitely use remastering are Incubus's Morning View and A Crow Left Of The Murder. The whole stripped down sound really doesn't suit them, and I think their move to a thicker, more epic style of production on Light Grenades really made them sound a heck of a lot better.
Whothehellru171
QUOTE(james. @ Dec 2 2007, 07:37 PM) [snapback]647448[/snapback]

rerecord or remaster?

rerecord:

brand new - your favorite weapon


i couldnt agree more with that. i thought that album was really good but it would be kind of cool to hear it new

another to add- st anger. they should just rerecord it to something totally different and make it not suck
sao'snotasin
The Oh, Sleeper album.
B
QUOTE(B-ryon @ Dec 3 2007, 12:59 AM) [snapback]647567[/snapback]

Second Stage Turbine wasn't remastered, as monty said i believe it was just rereleased. wish it had been remastered.

Yah! I confirmed that already. wink.gif
Def one I would like to see remastered. If not, rerecorded then remastered.
SPACE GHOST
I second the ATDI reunion btw.
Ddjembe Mutombo
QUOTE(adam. @ Dec 3 2007, 01:29 AM) [snapback]647578[/snapback]

From First to Last's album. oh wait.

on a serious note, taking back sunday - tell all your friends. this is like, the worst production job on a cd i can remember.

have you listened to Mineral - The Power of Failing. Most of the songs were Demos or pulled off their 7"s and the recording quality is so awful it sounds like they used a radioshack mic to record each instrument including voice.
I thought that high pitch in the background of tell all your friends was just my computer screwing up when I ripped it to my computer. And when I lost the real cd I just burned the ripped files on to a CD.

QUOTE(-john @ Dec 3 2007, 02:24 AM) [snapback]647606[/snapback]

I guess its like Billy Corgan with the Smashing Pumpkins. Plenty of people probably hate him and his shiny head, but it can't be denied that without him the Smashing Pumpkins wouldn't be what they are.

they pretty much aren't because he was such a studio nazi that when people left for the day he would stay behind and rerecord and possibly rewrite the other band mates' parts
chrome dome was so hard core.
GarrettR
I would love to see "Mellon Collie & the Infinite Sadness" by the Smashing Pumpkins remastered. I love the album, but for some reason the mixing/mastering/whatever bothers me.
carrie
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QUOTE(B @ Dec 3 2007, 07:15 AM) [snapback]647633[/snapback]

Yah! I confirmed that already. wink.gif
Def one I would like to see remastered. If not, rerecorded then remastered.
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So I was wrong. Still wish I could hear it remastered.
Note
QUOTE(-john @ Dec 2 2007, 09:20 PM) [snapback]647548[/snapback]

I really dislike Dallas Taylor's voice for some reason. It sounds like a cat getting stabbed in the urethra.

Furthermore, the dude has absolutely no range whatsoever. He can't sing, he can't vary his screams. All he can do is that one note yelp of his, interspersed with some spoken word.


I can see what you are saying to an extent. But when they use to play the ep's live after corey left he did the lows and it sounded decent. That's just his style and I like it along with the lyrics as well.
Shane.
QUOTE(-john @ Dec 3 2007, 02:20 AM) [snapback]647548[/snapback]

I really dislike Dallas Taylor's voice for some reason. It sounds like a cat getting stabbed in the urethra.

Furthermore, the dude has absolutely no range whatsoever. He can't sing, he can't vary his screams. All he can do is that one note yelp of his, interspersed with some spoken word.

sad.gif

anyways..

I used to always want to hear Green Days 39/Smooth with a clearer sound.

as well as Blink 182's Cheshire Cat and Set Your Goals' Reset.
Defenestration of Chris
QUOTE(adam. @ Dec 3 2007, 01:29 AM) [snapback]647578[/snapback]


on a serious note, taking back sunday - tell all your friends. this is like, the worst production job on a cd i can remember.



The album sounds rediculous. The vocals are really messed up, theres like a high pitched tone you can hear throughout some of the songs, etc etc. It just sounds bad overall.
Charlie.
I could go for tell all your friends.
I would definitely pick the illusion of safety though -minus the solo in so strange I remember you. The guitar tone in that is perfect.
bennifer
wow whoever thinks kid a needs to be re-done is an idiot.
dick.
the heart and the synapse
john
Now that I think about it, is it just me or does everything Casey Creszenso work on have incredibly terrible mixing?


I really wish Mr. Bungle's Disco Volante could have a re-do. I love that album (if you haven't noticed yet), but sometimes its so muddled and retarded that its difficult to discern the disparate parts.
Ryan.
QUOTE(bjt @ Dec 3 2007, 05:52 PM) [snapback]648022[/snapback]

wow whoever thinks kid a needs to be re-done is an idiot.

seriously, I have no idea how one could improve kid a.
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