I concur.

James I thought you were done with the wake and baking?

and Nosebleed how long have you smoked with your mom? Sounds like it'd be relatively good bonding, or makes you a mess...

A lot of kids here smoke with their parents, its kind weird......idk, but I guess not cause its Santa Cruz. My mom smokes weed every now and then, she tries to play it off like she doesn't, but whatever. I don't really care if she does or not.

You have to grow up sometime or another. I used to smoke all the time, but now i think its so annoying and i hate when my friends get high.

I don't smoke
I shouldn't even be posting in here, since I'm fully sxe and what not.

yeah i failed at that partially.

I don't do drugs i used to do coke and smoke a ton of pot back in high school. Now i just drink like a son of a bitch.

who the fuck smokes with their mom. that's all i gotta say.

i would do it with my mom (i've asked her once). but i wouldn't make it a constant thing. it would be a one-time thing as a bonding experience to signify that stage in my life and her understanding of it.

i wouldn't. i see my parents as parents, maybe because i'm still 16, but that's just something you don't do.

if my parents caught me huffing ganja, my ass would be hamburger meat.

I feel like weed every now and then to chill out is fine (just like everything else...), but its effects ultimately just screw you over anyways. Everyone I know who smokes ends up toking up way too often and their education goes down the drain because everything you meant to do sober (ie homework) seems to take way too much effort. Not to mention that it definitely ruins your short term memory as long as you keep smoking up... anyways if you're an adult (or have a child) and are still doing bud with your kid there's something wrong.

I guess I'm just stating the obvious here...

i've gotten shitfaced with my mom in new orleans or at the casinos, not sitting around the house though.

@Andrew

I totally know what you mean! Like being high is their sober, and being sober is being high. Kind of? Like they can't function without weed, really.

My brother smokes an awful lot. When he use to drive me to school he'd take hits while I held the wheel and steered. He often leaves work to go take bong hits too. Or they just smoke here.

yeah i see my parents as mentors at this point because they're definitely still like wise and all, but since i've grown up a bit more and come to terms with the fact that many of my qualities will be similar to theirs, they've also become a little bit more like friends too.

I hook my dad up with pot. It's both for him and my mom. I don't give a shit, they're both at prestigious levels of their career and have accomplished enough to make me hope to aspire to equal levels of accomplishment.

I don't see what growing up has to do with it. Some people need to stop to grow up up, for others, they're grown up enough where it doesn't hinder anything in their life. I work full time and go to school full time, get good grades and get baked.

Yeah, it all depends on the person. I've got friends who have fucked themselves over because they can't think anymore and only get shit done when they're high because being sober feels weird to them. Their grades suck and their desire to achieve goals is shot. But then there are kids like my sister who smokes weed like James and loves it so much, but then majors in Bioengineering and gets bomb grades. As long as you don't allow it to control you, smoking whenever (even as a parent) shouldn't matter.

immediately, it helps with anxiety/depression. thats why i smoked everyday for a year. it was the only thing i had that made me feel happy and allowed me to have fun. what i didnt realize was that by smoking every day, it just makes anxiety and psychosis much worse. the worse i felt, the more i smoked. it was a shitty cycle that kept getting worse. it's been proven that "long term" or heavy weed usage brings out bad mental shit. its pretty much the only downside to weed.

and my dad smokes, but i'd never smoke with him. its just too weird. i dont have a problem with it, though. my dad operates a business and does pretty well for himself. he's able to control and maintain his usage, so i dont see the problem. some people can handle frequent weed usage, and some cant. it just depends on the kind of person you are and the reason you do it.

and as a side note, if anyone has any experience with prozac, give me your feedback on it. i was just taken off celexa and put on 20mg of prozac a day. i was also prescribed trazodone for sleep, if anyone has any experience with that as well.

My friend and I use to drive to school and when we'd be going into the parking lot, driving over speed bumbs id steer while he did bong tokes and then he just put his bong in his backseat, and seatbelt it in. Shit was hilarious.


Ah idk if this helps much but I took it for about a month or so, I know you are suppose to do it longer then that for it to kick in but I wasn't depressed, my dad was just convinced I was so he just asked my doctor for it and he prescribed it for me. My brother is now on it and he seems to be doing better, so i'm sure it works I just don't know how long it lasts cause I have heard soem people saying it helped but only for a limited amount of time. This is all just for prozac btw.

Walmart also has the generic one for 4 bucks to, I remember you said you don't have insurance so I thought id throw that part in there too.

yeah i know a lot of these meds seem to only work for a limited amount of time, but hopefully it stays consistent for me. also, i get all my pills from walmart. that $4 thing is fucking bad ass.

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and Nosebleed how long have you smoked with your mom? Sounds like it'd be relatively good bonding, or makes you a mess...
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Uhh, it's been about like 3 months? Yea, it's great bonding.

I took Prozac a few years ago for a few months. Made me gain 15-20 pounds really quick. I never really found any anti-depressant that I took to help all that much. For me, the negatives (shitty side effects) out weighed the positives. Working out 3-5 times a week and staying as busy as possible is what eventually got me out of my bout of depression.

whoever said that adults smoking weed need a reality check needs their own reality check. There are many credible lawyers, cpa's, and business owners who still smoke weed. The problem is a lot of people lose their own self control involving the substance and take it to an extreme that should never be reached.

I was on the extreme end of the bad spectrum last year (i.e. 5-6 blunts a day, no exaggeration), and now I see how useless I made myself. Although my grades didn't drop because of weed, my ambitions did and it took all summer to get my head straight after being arrested.

Point being, dont be a fucking idiot and ruin your every day routine for a plant.

I'm looking for a bit of advice reguarding prescription drugs.
I have problems. I don't know what they are, but I have them, and I'm not sure why but I'm really reluctant to see a psyciatrist about them or go on any type of medication, mostly I think because I've seen my friends and family change after going on them.

Because of this fear, since I've been little I've just dealt with a whole list of issues that I should probably be treated for.

I can't pay attention for shit. Not because I don't want to, but I am constantly thinking about everything that I could possibly think of at the same time. Every thought leads into a different one that has almost nothing to do with the one prior, and my thought process just gos on and on like this.
Not just in school either. I can't sleep at night without smoking before hand. If I try, I'll lay in bed till around 4:00 or 4:30, periodically looking at the alarm clock to remind myself how much less sleep I have the potential to get as the minutes tick by.

I got mad ticks. I have since I was little. I never have alot of them at one time, but if I manage to stop one, another will take its place soon after. They aren't spasms, they are controlled consious movements that I am addicted to. They generally consist of something that causes small amounts of pain. It started when I was little, I would scrunch my face up, and then open my mouth/expand every feature of my face as much as possible. The ticks have ranged from that, to bending my back/neck in odd ways, rolling my shoulders, blinking really fast while my eyes are focused either right or left, flexing/scrunching my fingers/ toes. I'm somewhat sure that I do it as a method of releasing endorphins, because once I release/ stop doing whatever the tick is, I feel extremely alliviated.

I crush shit. Everything in my hands, absent mindedly gets crushed. Anytime I take in a note to school, the attendance lady recieves a crumpled wadd of paper. Everytime I set down a drink at a party, everybody knows if its mine because its crushed into a triangle.

Now this is going to sound like a burnout, druggy thing to say. But I've taken adderal before (not the bullshit capsule adderal, like I'm talking the speed that the woman from requiem for a dream was taking), and pretty much anything that was wrong with me seemed to be gone. I remember feeling no motivation for doing any of my usual tickets, and I was extremely relaxed and at peace.
This is probably going to make me sound even more like a druggy, but does anyone know of a method for getting adderal ( I don't know the spelling and I'm not using mozilla so I'm without spell check) without actually going to a psyciatrist? Like a clinic or something? I realize I shouldn't diagnose myself, but my parents are going to be putting 2 kids through college next year and I don't want to make them spend money for me to go to a psyciatrist for a few months just so he can give me psycological explanations for the weird shit that I do. And I can't exactly go to a pharmacy and say "hey, my friend gave me some of this one time, it really did the trick."

Edit: I really don't know what I'm fishing for here, but any info would be great. The main reason I'm interested at this point is because I mostly rely on budds to mellow me out, and I have to kick it for a few months soon to get my summer job.

find a friend with a scrip

beg sammy

i firmly believe this. dumb people shouldn't smoke weed. i believe if weed is for you it stimulates your creativity and originality but with dumb people it just unveils their stupidity.

I also agree.

HOW IRONIC.

sounds to me like you may have a chronic tic disorder, most likely tourrettes. I found out a few months ago i was diagnosed with tourrettes. i tic my head to the left, and i also kind of have a habit with crushing cans like you have. A.D.D. is also known to be closely linked to tourrettes, so that may also be a possibility. You can get medicine for this. I've also found weed helps. (I've recently had a posession charge dismissed because of my tourrettes).




if you're trying to hint at something that only dumb people smoke weed, i can easily prove you wrong with pleny of successful people who do.

the comment is 100 percent about nosebleed

If you need something like weed to be creative or original, it probably means that you're inherently dumber than all of the people who are those qualities without the aid of drugs.

And yeah, everyone else is right in that it absolutely depends on the person. Heck, even things like too much internet could lead you to get like a 2.1 in school just as much as weed could, while other people can still get 4.0's with a similar amount of exposure to either.

my grades suck and i smoke weed but everyone knows i'm retarded.

i never said anything about needing weed for creativity. and im not the only one who would say it adds to it.

it doesn't add to it, you're just so stoned you think you sound good.

I just can't stand people who think that it's only by using weed they can maximize their potential, when a lot of the times it just limits them. I apologize if I unfairly lumped you into that group, but from the few times I actually indulged and I tried writing music or composing poems or something, it seemed like amazing art at the time but when I sobered up I realized how completely awful it actually was.

haha no i've made up a few of my songs on piano for a group after smoking. ha my mom seems to like it.

Johny, in my area, if you just go to the doctor, and tell him you're having a terrible time concentrating, they may just prescribe you to adderall/ritalin/concerta. In my area, a bunch of kids have gone that route and gotten ADD pills that way. If you tell him your school work (if you even go to school...) is suffereing because of it, it might fly. It's not uncommon for doctors these days just throw down adderall as a cure for any sort of inability to concentrate.

Come to Arizona, I can get you as much adderall as you need.

horrible fucking doctors who get off writing their name on a prescription.

dr robert

whoa Whoa WHOA! Never mentioned ANYTHING about this. You're dead to me. This can easily be changed though.

How 'Bout No, Scott!

My mom brought ADD up to my regular doc one time, and they gave her like 8 packets to fill out. One for me, one for her, one for a teacher of my chosing, a bunch of other random shit. They said I needed to fill all these out, then go interview with some guy, then take a written test, then one final interview, and then they take a while to evaluate it all.

I started the process but it was extremely uncomfortable. All the questions were noticably geared towards elementary school kids.

True or False:
All my friends are better than me

Nothings fun anymore

My teacher gives me bad feelings


Etc. I managed to get through my packet, but after reading the questions my teacher would be answering, I just didn't want them involved.


The thing is, weed really does help. On the outside, I'm really care fee and laid back. I don't get worked up about really anything. But I guess subconsiously I'm really anxious or some shit.
But smoking makes my outside match my inside. All my tics are completely gone when I'm high.

Unless its some crazy Sativa strain. A few certain strains make my tics worse

Edit: Also, the worst part about any of my disorders/tendancys/idk what to call them since I haven't been diagnosed is the sleep deprevation. And weed just totally and completely eliminates that as a problem.

i think i'll trip this weekend

I'm not sure if this is a good or bad thing.

just rolled a nice blunt. my friend from VA attempted to roll it, but nothing beats a jersey-wrapped blunt. even my friends in NY can't roll properly, it's sad.

<- done after sunday.

you dont have the right friends in NY, then. best blunts ive ever had were rolled by crips in BK. one of my friends there rolled 4 perfect blunts in a 5 minutes. never had a jersey blunt, though.

and james, you're done smoking?

I'm sure people from all over can roll pretty good blunts.

Not true Steve. People from Jersey are the only ones.

I smoke a lot of weed and am on the internett a lot and i have above a 3.0. i just got really baked and dreezy and went to my friends church.(i'm aethiest)