Moat, you can't say you are doing research when you are obviously looking for the answers you want when doing so.
Nobody will listen if you don't seem like you are in the least bit objective. It just kind of seems like you have absorbed a lot of conspiracy knowledge without fully researching both sides. Maybe I'm wrong, but you definitely come across as close minded and as someone who is quite willing to just take all of this conspiracy stuff at face value.
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And anyone NOT Moat could tell you that.
Well they didn't Scott!
Not an attack on you BriBri. Just pointing out anyone could tell you that, but most aren't using the energy to do so.
So if the government is doing all this to hurt the American people and seize control...then why are they doing it? Like is it going to culminate with some large scale event where we are thrown into labor camps? Wouldnt they learn from history that eventually all oppressed peoples will rise up? Is Moat's intentions to get us to believe and rise up against the goverment before they can act against us?
Moat's plan:
1. Reveal the conspiracies
2. ??
3. Profit
Moat's plan:
1. Reveal the conspiracies
2. ??
3. Profit
Let's never fight again
QUOTE (chuck taylor @ Jun 5 2009, 04:12 PM) 
moat, would you have taken stuff out of abandoned stores around ground zero? also, if obama is a puppet, and george bush wasnt incontrol, was clinton also a puppet?
no i wouldnt.. and that's not because i'm some saint, i just think in that particular situation it wouldnt even be a thought of mine. now say, martial law comes to be and it's us vs. them, sure i'll loot a store for supplies. ya know, if it comes down to survival CHEA. every president since jfk was a puppet. jimmy carter being the most overtly "wallstreet" that is until obama of course, clinton is very much an internationalist, a CFR member and he's the one that implemented NAFTA and GATT. and it's interesting to look at clinton's career. he was relatively a no-body (much like obama) before coming into the public eye. and both got there big boost after attending bilderberg meetings. something to raise an eyebrow at.
QUOTE (chuck taylor @ Jun 5 2009, 04:21 PM)
So if the government is doing all this to hurt the American people and seize control...then why are they doing it? Like is it going to culminate with some large scale event where we are thrown into labor camps? Wouldnt they learn from history that eventually all oppressed peoples will rise up? Is Moat's intentions to get us to believe and rise up against the goverment before they can act against us?
Moat's plan:
1. Reveal the conspiracies
2. ??
3. Profit
Moat's plan:
1. Reveal the conspiracies
2. ??
3. Profit
i like your statement of eventually all oppressed people rise up, that is true. FREEDOM always prevails, but a lot of bad shit happens in the mean time.
"So if the government is doing all this to hurt the American people and seize control...then why are they doing it?" you answered your own question. they are doing it to seize control! they think it's for your own good too.
my intentions are to get you to be prepared and know what's going on in the world around you. and to not be suckers of the new world order. infact, my ideal form of rebellion is a peaceful one. (they will incite the violence not us, that's a guarantee) an information revolution! they cant succeed if there is a global non-compliance. heck even if just america stopped being the bitch of the new world order, other countries would follow. the only means at which i expect to profit is from buying gold before the dollar crashes, which i encourage all of you to do.
yes it will climax at some event, whether that is a staged event (bioterror) or just civil unrest due to the economy is yet to be seen. but the solution will be the same- big government. and when you say wouldnt they learn from the past? the only thing they're trying to learn is how to do it better and with technology it is becoming easier to scan you, track you, and spy on you.
and my research is not bias. EVERYDAY FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS i have done nothing but examine these claims, lest not forget I STARTED JUST AS SKEPTICAL as all of you but when you literally find proof of this in every facet of life it's too hard to ignore anymore. if it was just one thing i was looking at, fine.. but in this thread alone i've covered the federal reserve system, the history of ww1 and ww2, vaccines, cyber security, 911, tax exempt abc organizations, healthcare, education, foreign policy, domestic policy, the depressions, wars, corporate control of mass media and information, youth brigades, terrorism, the food supply, FEMA and DHS, the housing bubble, freemasonry, bilderberg it is ALL TIED TOGETHER. why be skeptical of me and not of your government? how can you be soo foolish to think they have your best interest in mind. prove it. prove they are trying to help you. i'd rather live in a dangerous world than east berlin.
QUOTE (Moat @ Jun 5 2009, 01:21 PM)
every president since jfk was a puppet.
The man who was bought into office isn't a puppet? His father bought JFK's victory in the primaries and also bought key districts in his popular vote victory. His father also believed democracy was going to fail during the 30's and he sympathized with Nazi Germany.
QUOTE (Bobby @ Jun 5 2009, 08:47 PM)
The man who was bought into office isn't a puppet? His father bought JFK's victory in the primaries and also bought key districts in his popular vote victory. His father also believed democracy was going to fail during the 30's and he sympathized with Nazi Germany.
close. very close. first off, i think even someone else in this thread said it.. but it's always about whichever candidate puts the most money out, or really the most given to them by the people i talk about. but that shit is just a side affect. now for JFK, his father's ties to nazi germany are more so than him just sympathizing with them. he openly supported hitler. his pals were nazi generals. joseph p kennedy was a bootlegger, that and his ties to germany was why JFK got elected, NOT the money. see the guys at the top figured because of JFK's dark past or lineage rather, he'd easily do whatever they wanted him to. however, JFK was a good guy at heart and saw what was going on in the grande scheme of things and he chose to say "NO" and help the people. he saw how evil bankers hijacked our government and were manipulating the people through this control of the currency.
QUOTE
President John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order No. 11110 that returned to the U.S. government the power to issue currency, without going through the Federal Reserve. Mr. Kennedy's order gave the Treasury the power "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This meant that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation. In all, Kennedy brought nearly $4.3 billion in U.S. notes into circulation. The ramifications of this bill are enormous.
With the stroke of a pen, Mr. Kennedy was on his way to putting the Federal Reserve Bank of New York out of business.
With the stroke of a pen, Mr. Kennedy was on his way to putting the Federal Reserve Bank of New York out of business.
and that's why he got shot. and ever since then, every president that sat in that chair has known that if you dont tow the line, you are out. THE FIRST STEP TO DEFEATING THIS: vote for ANY other party than democrat or republican(w/the exception of ron paul) for BOTH those parties are OWNED by corporations and these handful of people trying to carry out one world government. end the federal reserve cartel that is running the country. audit the fed, and when the people find out where all the money went.. that alone will be enough to cause an uprising. infact, call your local congressman and tell him to back the ron paul bill to audit the federal reserve (which has never been audited [with the exception of inventory] but i'm talking money) you guys have got to at least want to know about that? right? or has everyone just gone completely numb. the federal reserve is the arm of the new world order sucking the life out of america. please start watching the films in this thread! they all explain things much better than me, they interview all sorts of people. that are not me! my name is not google. but if you give these films a chance, and view them with no preconceived notions i garuntee a light bulb will go off in your head and it will start to all make sense.
google video has 90% if not all, of the movies i've posted here. FREE
Zeitgeist: Addendum
The Obama Deception
Naomi Wolfe's: End of America
The Money Masters: How International Bankers Gained Control of America (lengthy, it goes into great detail about american history and banking)
Endgame: Blueprint for Global Enslavement
911: The Road to Tyranny
Zero: An Investigation into 911 (italian film makers and engineers, really good if you're not into Loose Change)
Reflections and Warnings - An Interview with Aaron Russo
F.L.O.W. (For Love of Water)
or if you're not in for a whole movie or you dont have time, youtube some names
Gerald Celente
Webster Tarpley
Daniel Estulin
Jacque Fresco
Jim Tucker
Jesse Ventura
Ron Paul
at least loook at some of the things before you feed me back what some history teacher taught you, or what some newscaster said because it's probably only half-truth at best
edit: just found a new movie, havent watched it yet.. it's from canada, called an intro to your human rights.. supposedly it covers sovereign; law; admiralty; strawman; tax; legal i'll let you know if it's worth your while i'm going to watch it now.
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original message re-posted below
original message re-posted below
yup that canada film is spot on.. watch it. explains this very clearly and simply. (little long tho)
skip to about 20 minutes in the first part is just an anecdote to give a little history on the presenter.
Introduction to Your Human Rights
skip to about 20 minutes in the first part is just an anecdote to give a little history on the presenter.
Introduction to Your Human Rights
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now for some quotes by people who say it much better than i can:
"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."- Woodrow Wilson
"The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from it's profits or so dependant on it's favors, that there will be no opposition from that class. The great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantages, will bear it's burden without complaint" — Rothschild Brothers
“[Very] soon, every American will be required to register their biological property in a national system designed to keep track of the people and that will operate under the ancient system of pledging. By such methodology, we can compel people to submit to our agenda, which will affect our security as a charge back for our fiat paper currency. Every American will be forced to register or suffer being unable to work and earn a living. They will be our chattels, our property and we will hold the security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant under the scheme of secured transactions.
Americans, by unknowingly or unwittingly delivering the bills of lading to us will be rendered bankrupt and insolvent, secured by their pledges. They will be stripped of their rights and given a commercial value designed to make us a profit and they will be none the wiser, for not one man in a million could ever figure our plans and, if by accident one or two should figure it out, we have in our arsenal plausible deniability. After all, this is the only logical way to fund government, by floating liens and debt to the registrants in the form of benefits and privileges.
This will inevitably reap to us huge profits beyond our wildest expectations and leave every American a contributor to this fraud which we will call “Social Insurance.” Without realizing it, every American will insure us for any loss we may incur and in this manner, every American will unknowingly be our servant, however begrudgingly. The people will become helpless and without any hope for their redemption and, we will employ the high office of the President of our dummy corporation to foment this plot against America.”- Colonel Edward Mandel House
"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the Field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere -- so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive -- that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."- Woodrow Wilson
tell a man he is free and he's free for a day, teach a man his rights and he's free for a lifetime.
now for some quotes by people who say it much better than i can:
"I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."- Woodrow Wilson
"The few who understand the system, will either be so interested from it's profits or so dependant on it's favors, that there will be no opposition from that class. The great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantages, will bear it's burden without complaint" — Rothschild Brothers
“[Very] soon, every American will be required to register their biological property in a national system designed to keep track of the people and that will operate under the ancient system of pledging. By such methodology, we can compel people to submit to our agenda, which will affect our security as a charge back for our fiat paper currency. Every American will be forced to register or suffer being unable to work and earn a living. They will be our chattels, our property and we will hold the security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant under the scheme of secured transactions.
Americans, by unknowingly or unwittingly delivering the bills of lading to us will be rendered bankrupt and insolvent, secured by their pledges. They will be stripped of their rights and given a commercial value designed to make us a profit and they will be none the wiser, for not one man in a million could ever figure our plans and, if by accident one or two should figure it out, we have in our arsenal plausible deniability. After all, this is the only logical way to fund government, by floating liens and debt to the registrants in the form of benefits and privileges.
This will inevitably reap to us huge profits beyond our wildest expectations and leave every American a contributor to this fraud which we will call “Social Insurance.” Without realizing it, every American will insure us for any loss we may incur and in this manner, every American will unknowingly be our servant, however begrudgingly. The people will become helpless and without any hope for their redemption and, we will employ the high office of the President of our dummy corporation to foment this plot against America.”- Colonel Edward Mandel House
"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the Field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere -- so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive -- that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."- Woodrow Wilson
tell a man he is free and he's free for a day, teach a man his rights and he's free for a lifetime.
terrorist!
Teach a man to pee, he pees for a day. Teach a man to poop, he'll clog your toilet. LOL
QUOTE (Moat @ Jun 6 2009, 07:58 AM)
re-post*
“[Very] soon, every American will be required to register their biological property in a national system designed to keep track of the people and that will operate under the ancient system of pledging. By such methodology, we can compel people to submit to our agenda, which will affect our security as a charge back for our fiat paper currency. Every American will be forced to register or suffer being unable to work and earn a living. They will be our chattels, our property and we will hold the security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant under the scheme of secured transactions.
Americans, by unknowingly or unwittingly delivering the bills of lading to us will be rendered bankrupt and insolvent, secured by their pledges. They will be stripped of their rights and given a commercial value designed to make us a profit and they will be none the wiser, for not one man in a million could ever figure our plans and, if by accident one or two should figure it out, we have in our arsenal plausible deniability. After all, this is the only logical way to fund government, by floating liens and debt to the registrants in the form of benefits and privileges.
This will inevitably reap to us huge profits beyond our wildest expectations and leave every American a contributor to this fraud which we will call “Social Insurance.” Without realizing it, every American will insure us for any loss we may incur and in this manner, every American will unknowingly be our servant, however begrudgingly. The people will become helpless and without any hope for their redemption and, we will employ the high office of the President of our dummy corporation to foment this plot against America.”- Colonel Edward Mandel House
[b]
“[Very] soon, every American will be required to register their biological property in a national system designed to keep track of the people and that will operate under the ancient system of pledging. By such methodology, we can compel people to submit to our agenda, which will affect our security as a charge back for our fiat paper currency. Every American will be forced to register or suffer being unable to work and earn a living. They will be our chattels, our property and we will hold the security interest over them forever, by operation of the law merchant under the scheme of secured transactions.
Americans, by unknowingly or unwittingly delivering the bills of lading to us will be rendered bankrupt and insolvent, secured by their pledges. They will be stripped of their rights and given a commercial value designed to make us a profit and they will be none the wiser, for not one man in a million could ever figure our plans and, if by accident one or two should figure it out, we have in our arsenal plausible deniability. After all, this is the only logical way to fund government, by floating liens and debt to the registrants in the form of benefits and privileges.
This will inevitably reap to us huge profits beyond our wildest expectations and leave every American a contributor to this fraud which we will call “Social Insurance.” Without realizing it, every American will insure us for any loss we may incur and in this manner, every American will unknowingly be our servant, however begrudgingly. The people will become helpless and without any hope for their redemption and, we will employ the high office of the President of our dummy corporation to foment this plot against America.”- Colonel Edward Mandel House
[b]
how did you even find this? surely something like this wouldn't have been allowed to leak onto the internet if it were really true
I'm pretty sure Triumph the Insult Comic Dog pooped on at least four of those "documentaries"
By the way, it's Colonel Edward Mandell House. But who cares, he's dead.
Man arrested, accused of threatening to kill Obama
Sounds like something Moat would say.
QUOTE
"We are 94 million miles from the sun, and are in-between the sun and moon, and the eagle that flies between them and it's a giant step for mankind. ... I have traveled thousands of miles to be here and know things that are going to happen. ... the banking system will fail and people will die. ... there will be chaos in the world,"
Sounds like something Moat would say.
Obama does suck, and he is getting worse.
Among other things, he is trying to be a celebrity to boost the way people view him, instead of making good political decisions.
Among other things, he is trying to be a celebrity to boost the way people view him, instead of making good political decisions.
that was an excerpt from his private memoirs.
My private memoirs read just like Finnegan's Wake
QUOTE (fromthedepthsofdreams55 @ Jun 6 2009, 03:19 PM)
how did you even find this? surely something like this wouldn't have been allowed to leak onto the internet if it were really true
what do you mean if its true? it's not like i typed all that up off the top of my head.. and this is why they are trying to demonize the internet and hype this "cyber-security" bullshit. they know the internet is there biggest threat, they cant let there be a free flow of information.
.. and i could be wrong but, i sense a few of you coming around to this whole idea. PLEASE LOOK INTO IT. i wish it was where we all point and laugh at the people that are still living the lie, for that is much more crazy than the things i talk about.
and mike,
edit: but seriously, i know this shit is gonna end up getting me killed.. i must've typed every "flag" word they got. LIBERTY LIBERTY FREEDOM RON PAUL LIBERTY, THE CONSTITUTION!! dont let me die in vain! please look at the information presented, i'm risking my life to get it to you (well, theoretically). but you can bet, i'm viewed as a "threat" to the new world order.
and now more fun quotes from influential people and a little bit of commentary:
"Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of Bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create deposits."- Sir Josiah Stamp (president of the bank of england in the 1920's, 2nd richest in England)
"give me control of a nation's money and i care not who makes her laws"- Meyer Rothschild
"While boasting of our noble deeds we're careful to conceal the ugly fact that by an iniquitous money system we have nationalized a system of oppression which, though more refined, is not less cruel than the old system of chattel slavery."- Horace Greeley
"Capital must be protected in every possible way. Debts must be collected, mortgages foreclosed as rapidly as possible. when through the process of law, the common people lose their homes, they will become more docile and more easily and more easily governed through the strong arm of government applied by a central power of wealth under leading financiers. these truths are well known among our principal men who are now engaged in forming an imperialism to govern the world. by dividing the voter through the political party system, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting for questions of no importance. it is thus by discreet action we can secure for ourselves what which has been so well planned so successfully accomplished." Banker's Association Magazine 1924
what is happening right now? does my explanation of the whole bailout thing, and the mortgage "crisis" make more sense?? we as a people, though easily duped, still have that intrinsic sense of freedom, it's just really blurry right now. and 911, the depression and the coming collapse IS ALL PLANNED. these are things to scare you into accepting your serfdom in return for your "safety"- it is about control! it's very self-serving. (to them)
"who sacrifices liberty for security deserves neither"- Ben Franklin
we need to stand up as A PEOPLE and root out these criminals and take our government back. throw out obama and his wallstreet banking oligarch. AUDIT THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND JAIL ALL OF THE POLITICIANS AND BANKERS. there should be lynch mobs in the street! but nobody knows! and nobody wants to hear it, or believe it, or stop living their diluted sense of the world. i dont mean this as a shot at anyone, i want you all to take an objective point of view of the posts you've made in this thread. and try to see how you are preconditioned to immediately shoot down any idea that doesnt "fit in" to the illusion that's been created for you. stop running on the hamster wheel! almost everyone here has called me crazy or a conspiracy theorist. or stating "oh, well i dont even listen to conspiracy theories" why do you think that is? because anytime you've ever seen anything on the news about it, "credible" people tell you "all that stuff is non-sense." and as people love to be a group, they all try to formulate a "safe" side of the argument as to not stand out, and be an individual (no never that). it is a child-like instinct that needs to be rooted out and replaced with open-mindedness and encouraged individualism. realize we are all the same in spirit but individual in our consciousness. we as a people have a goal to truly be free. society is emergent, the emergent nature of reality is that all systems; whether it is knowledge, society, technology, philosophy, or any other creation; will, when uninhibited, undergo fluid perpetual change. but your whole life you're led to believe the establishment. and an establishment's only goal is self preservation! so of course it's going to weed out ideas that threaten it. WAKE UP the only way the establishment will change is by our refusal to participate while continuously acknowledging it's endless flaws and corruptions.
dont block out new ideas! it goes against your inherent nature. dont be put in a box. look at the information for yourself and be wary of those with a silver tongue.
"In religion and politics people’s beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing."-Mark Twain (i know, i used this one already)
"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (i used this one already too.. but they're too good)
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."- Jiddu Krishnamurti (yup went for a three-peat to close her.)
really i dont mean to come off as preachy, but i guess i kind of am. adieu.
edit: heh, i should change my board name to freedom preacher (that might only be funny to me)
"Banking was conceived in iniquity and was born in sin. The Bankers own the earth. Take it away from them, but leave them the power to create deposits, and with the flick of the pen they will create enough deposits to buy it back again. However, take it away from them, and all the great fortunes like mine will disappear and they ought to disappear, for this would be a happier and better world to live in. But, if you wish to remain the slaves of Bankers and pay the cost of your own slavery, let them continue to create deposits."- Sir Josiah Stamp (president of the bank of england in the 1920's, 2nd richest in England)
"give me control of a nation's money and i care not who makes her laws"- Meyer Rothschild
"While boasting of our noble deeds we're careful to conceal the ugly fact that by an iniquitous money system we have nationalized a system of oppression which, though more refined, is not less cruel than the old system of chattel slavery."- Horace Greeley
"Capital must be protected in every possible way. Debts must be collected, mortgages foreclosed as rapidly as possible. when through the process of law, the common people lose their homes, they will become more docile and more easily and more easily governed through the strong arm of government applied by a central power of wealth under leading financiers. these truths are well known among our principal men who are now engaged in forming an imperialism to govern the world. by dividing the voter through the political party system, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting for questions of no importance. it is thus by discreet action we can secure for ourselves what which has been so well planned so successfully accomplished." Banker's Association Magazine 1924
what is happening right now? does my explanation of the whole bailout thing, and the mortgage "crisis" make more sense?? we as a people, though easily duped, still have that intrinsic sense of freedom, it's just really blurry right now. and 911, the depression and the coming collapse IS ALL PLANNED. these are things to scare you into accepting your serfdom in return for your "safety"- it is about control! it's very self-serving. (to them)
"who sacrifices liberty for security deserves neither"- Ben Franklin
we need to stand up as A PEOPLE and root out these criminals and take our government back. throw out obama and his wallstreet banking oligarch. AUDIT THE FEDERAL RESERVE AND JAIL ALL OF THE POLITICIANS AND BANKERS. there should be lynch mobs in the street! but nobody knows! and nobody wants to hear it, or believe it, or stop living their diluted sense of the world. i dont mean this as a shot at anyone, i want you all to take an objective point of view of the posts you've made in this thread. and try to see how you are preconditioned to immediately shoot down any idea that doesnt "fit in" to the illusion that's been created for you. stop running on the hamster wheel! almost everyone here has called me crazy or a conspiracy theorist. or stating "oh, well i dont even listen to conspiracy theories" why do you think that is? because anytime you've ever seen anything on the news about it, "credible" people tell you "all that stuff is non-sense." and as people love to be a group, they all try to formulate a "safe" side of the argument as to not stand out, and be an individual (no never that). it is a child-like instinct that needs to be rooted out and replaced with open-mindedness and encouraged individualism. realize we are all the same in spirit but individual in our consciousness. we as a people have a goal to truly be free. society is emergent, the emergent nature of reality is that all systems; whether it is knowledge, society, technology, philosophy, or any other creation; will, when uninhibited, undergo fluid perpetual change. but your whole life you're led to believe the establishment. and an establishment's only goal is self preservation! so of course it's going to weed out ideas that threaten it. WAKE UP the only way the establishment will change is by our refusal to participate while continuously acknowledging it's endless flaws and corruptions.
QUOTE
"Apart from the understanding that all natural systems are emergent, where all notions of
reality will be constantly developed, altered, and even eradicated; we must also
understand that all systems are in fact invented fragments merely for sake of
conversation. For there is no such thing as independence in nature. The whole of nature
is a unified system of interdependent variables, each a cause and a reaction, existing
only as a concentrated whole."
reality will be constantly developed, altered, and even eradicated; we must also
understand that all systems are in fact invented fragments merely for sake of
conversation. For there is no such thing as independence in nature. The whole of nature
is a unified system of interdependent variables, each a cause and a reaction, existing
only as a concentrated whole."
dont block out new ideas! it goes against your inherent nature. dont be put in a box. look at the information for yourself and be wary of those with a silver tongue.
"In religion and politics people’s beliefs and convictions are in almost every case gotten at second-hand, and without examination, from authorities who have not themselves examined the questions at issue but have taken them at second-hand from other non-examiners, whose opinions about them were not worth a brass farthing."-Mark Twain (i know, i used this one already)
"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free."- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (i used this one already too.. but they're too good)
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."- Jiddu Krishnamurti (yup went for a three-peat to close her.)
really i dont mean to come off as preachy, but i guess i kind of am. adieu.
edit: heh, i should change my board name to freedom preacher (that might only be funny to me)
QUOTE (Moat @ May 11 2009, 08:10 PM)
obamamovie.tk
thoughts? feel free to check the facts and pass it on.
cheers.
thoughts? feel free to check the facts and pass it on.
cheers.
S.773 Cyber-Security Act of 2009
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.773:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:S.773:
i hate to bump this thread on you, but this is too important. DO NOT BELIEVE THE LIE. this is an article from cnn
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/11/museum....two/index.html
it is trying to discredit the real information out there. so that you immediately associate any kind of freedom talk, or truth about the federal reserve with anti-semitic mental illness.
i am in no way defending this nutcase. but this is nonsense. think about everything i've told you in this thread, it's exactly that except they threw in this hate speech to make everyone believe it's somehow related to the truth movement. i'm trying to say that this is controlled opposition, because they know there are too many people like me causing a stir. so they have to address it or lose total credibility. they are trying to discredit the truth. it has nothing to do with jewish people at all. it's fucking bankers.
just a heads up, cause shit like this is all over the news right now. they're pushing it hard because they know their losing their grip. dont be fooled!
AND RON PAULS BILL HR 1207 TO AUDIT THE FEDERAL RESERVE HAS THE MAJORITY OF COSPONSORS!!!! this is a HUGE deal. the senate can still hold it up.. or even a presidential veto, the fed hired a huge lobby firm to try to shut this thing down.. but that begs the question "what've you got to hide" we'll see what happens.. but last night was a huge step forward in shutting down this criminal bank cartel.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/06/11/museum....two/index.html
it is trying to discredit the real information out there. so that you immediately associate any kind of freedom talk, or truth about the federal reserve with anti-semitic mental illness.
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A notebook found in his car after the shooting declared, "You want my weapons -- this is how you'll get them," according to investigators.
"The Holocaust is a lie. Obama was created by Jews. Obama does what Jew owners tell him to do. Jews captured America's money. Jews control the mass media. The 1st Amendment is abrogated --henceforth," von Brunn wrote, according to an FBI agent's affidavit.
"The Holocaust is a lie. Obama was created by Jews. Obama does what Jew owners tell him to do. Jews captured America's money. Jews control the mass media. The 1st Amendment is abrogated --henceforth," von Brunn wrote, according to an FBI agent's affidavit.
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Von Brunn served a federal prison term for a 1981 attempt to kidnap members of the Federal Reserve's board of governors, triggered by anger at what he called the "treacherous and unconstitutional" acts of an institution he called Jewish-controlled.
Von Brunn's Web site promoted his book, "Kill the Best Gentiles," in which he claimed the Jewish-led "Illuminati" and Jewish figures such as Sigmund Freud and Karl Marx worked "to destroy Western civilization and the Aryan nation that created it."
Von Brunn's Web site promoted his book, "Kill the Best Gentiles," in which he claimed the Jewish-led "Illuminati" and Jewish figures such as Sigmund Freud and Karl Marx worked "to destroy Western civilization and the Aryan nation that created it."
i am in no way defending this nutcase. but this is nonsense. think about everything i've told you in this thread, it's exactly that except they threw in this hate speech to make everyone believe it's somehow related to the truth movement. i'm trying to say that this is controlled opposition, because they know there are too many people like me causing a stir. so they have to address it or lose total credibility. they are trying to discredit the truth. it has nothing to do with jewish people at all. it's fucking bankers.
just a heads up, cause shit like this is all over the news right now. they're pushing it hard because they know their losing their grip. dont be fooled!
AND RON PAULS BILL HR 1207 TO AUDIT THE FEDERAL RESERVE HAS THE MAJORITY OF COSPONSORS!!!! this is a HUGE deal. the senate can still hold it up.. or even a presidential veto, the fed hired a huge lobby firm to try to shut this thing down.. but that begs the question "what've you got to hide" we'll see what happens.. but last night was a huge step forward in shutting down this criminal bank cartel.
QUOTE (Moat @ Jun 12 2009, 03:14 PM)
losing my grip.
Yeah, pretty much.
i didnt write that.
check this out moat, http://warmingglow.uproxx.com/2009/06/ahhh...monium/#respond
they talk about the new world order and how the new converter boxes is a government conspiracy.
they talk about the new world order and how the new converter boxes is a government conspiracy.
QUOTE (Moat @ Jun 12 2009, 10:14 AM)
i hate to bump this thread on you
doubt it
Hahaha, that is SO Brian!
QUOTE (chuck taylor @ Jun 12 2009, 01:10 PM)
check this out moat, http://warmingglow.uproxx.com/2009/06/ahhh...monium/#respond
they talk about the new world order and how the new converter boxes is a government conspiracy.
they talk about the new world order and how the new converter boxes is a government conspiracy.
yeah i've heard that rumor.. i think that's bogus. that shit is disinformation. no one that actually knows what's going on, thinks that shit is real. it's a hoax. they have much better ways of tracking you.. heck, most of the time the people do it willingly. look at twitter, and how hard that shit is pushed on the news. self-tracking. they perfected the game.
I agree with that sentiment.
So Moat, how long has this conspiracy been going on?
QUOTE (Bobby @ Jun 12 2009, 01:23 PM)
So Moat, how long has this conspiracy been going on?
a long time. since, bankers realized they could manipulate government and people by the issuance of money.
The Money Masters
this is a pretty good account of it's history. it has a pbs special kinda feel to it. but it's good..
Let's just make out right now, Moat. Your enlightenment gives me a hard rock.
Okay, so we're talking at least 100+ years? And thousands of people must be involved with this?
Moat, ever read the one about G.W.'s grandpa trying to overthrow FDR?
QUOTE (Bobby @ Jun 12 2009, 01:32 PM)
Okay, so we're talking at least 100+ years? And thousands of people must be involved with this?
yeah easily 200 years if not slightly more.. the people that are at the helm now, are about 150 deep. and there are a few other "brotherhoods" that are localized in other regions rather than the british-american empire. it's just that one is at the top. so yeah, essentially this is a few thousand people over 200 years. but it's all intentional, by that i mean.. even who they married and had children with. it's a very royalty mentality. it goes along with all of them being eugenicists too. they believe they are trying to create a super race of dominant men to rule over all the "useless eaters" and i hope that made your pubeys stand up bennifer. and all these philanthropists seem to be very interested in eugenics. bill gates dad started planned parent hood. hmm? coincidence? maybe.
QUOTE (Prettier in Plaid @ Jun 12 2009, 01:36 PM)
Moat, ever read the one about G.W.'s grandpa trying to overthrow FDR?
you ever read about how g.w.'s father is connected to the jfk murder? and yeah i think a couple pages back someone brought up good ol' prescott and the nazi connection.
But I mean, with the massive amounts of stuff you claim they have control over, it's not just 150 people running the show. That's the reason I'm not gonna believe in this shit. People don't work well in huge groups, there are too many variables. You can't have a 200 year global conspiracy without someone slipping up.
someone did slip up. his code name is Moat
Moat you're expendable get out now before it's too late!!
QUOTE (Moat @ Jun 12 2009, 01:21 PM)
yeah i've heard that rumor.. i think that's bogus. that shit is disinformation. no one that actually knows what's going on, thinks that shit is real. it's a hoax. they have much better ways of tracking you.. heck, most of the time the people do it willingly. look at twitter, and how hard that shit is pushed on the news. self-tracking. they perfected the game.
Wouldnt twitter only be self-tracking if the people posting are posting true information.
Operation Northwoods
QUOTE (Bobby @ Jun 12 2009, 01:43 PM)
But I mean, with the massive amounts of stuff you claim they have control over, it's not just 150 people running the show. That's the reason I'm not gonna believe in this shit. People don't work well in huge groups, there are too many variables. You can't have a 200 year global conspiracy without someone slipping up.
its 150 people that are calling the shots and making the real decisions. they have subdivisions. it's the pyramid. they are they capstone. the council on foreign relations and the trilateral commission are subdivisions to these international bankers. compartmentalized. look at all the people that own the central banks to most countries, and the world banks. and underneath the bankers are the corporations.
walt disney owns:
pixar
touchstone
miramax
abc
bueno vista international
TIME WARNER owns:
aol
compuserve
icq
netscape
winamp
mapquest
headline news
roadrunner online
hbo
cinemax
cartoon network
court tv
tbs
cnn
News Corporation owns:
20th century fox
direct tv
fox news
insideout
national geographic
news and world
FX
the lists go on and on of corporations owning corporations, you only need a few representatives from each to carry out their individual part. all the people that work at all those companies dont know their role in the whole thing. it's this small group of people that own everything and are implementing all of this. they have lobbyist that buy politicians legally. obama works for these people directly, zbigniew brzezinski, henry kissinger, richard haas.. i mean, all the proof is right in front of your face. i know it's a tough concept to wrap your head around.. a central bank to a country enslaves the people of that nation, a central bank to the world will enslave us all! if the fed gets audited that is a HUGE step in taking down these criminals. pay attention to that in the coming months. that HAS to happen.
QUOTE (Moat @ Jun 12 2009, 06:07 PM)
its 150 people that are calling the shots and making the real decisions. they have subdivisions. it's the pyramid. they are they capstone. the council on foreign relations and the trilateral commission are subdivisions to these international bankers. look at all the people that own the central banks to most countries, and the world banks. and underneath the bankers are the corporations.
walt disney owns:
pixar
touchstone
miramax
abc
bueno vista international
TIME WARNER owns:
aol
compuserve
icq
netscape
winamp
mapquest
headline news
roadrunner online
hbo
cinemax
cartoon network
court tv
tbs
cnn
News Corporation owns:
20th century fox
direct tv
fox news
insideout
national geographic
news and world
FX
the lists go on and on of corporations owning corporations, you only need a few representatives from each to carry out their individual part. all the people that work at all those companies dont know their role in the whole thing. it's this small group of people that own everything and are implementing all of this. they have lobbyist that buy politicians legally. obama works for these people directly, zbigniew brzezinski, henry kissinger, richard haas.. i mean, all the proof is right in front of your face. i know it's a tough concept to wrap your head around.. a central bank to a country enslaves the people of that nation, a central bank to the world will enslave us all! if the fed gets audited that is a HUGE step in taking down these criminals. pay attention to that in the coming months. that HAS to happen.
walt disney owns:
pixar
touchstone
miramax
abc
bueno vista international
TIME WARNER owns:
aol
compuserve
icq
netscape
winamp
mapquest
headline news
roadrunner online
hbo
cinemax
cartoon network
court tv
tbs
cnn
News Corporation owns:
20th century fox
direct tv
fox news
insideout
national geographic
news and world
FX
the lists go on and on of corporations owning corporations, you only need a few representatives from each to carry out their individual part. all the people that work at all those companies dont know their role in the whole thing. it's this small group of people that own everything and are implementing all of this. they have lobbyist that buy politicians legally. obama works for these people directly, zbigniew brzezinski, henry kissinger, richard haas.. i mean, all the proof is right in front of your face. i know it's a tough concept to wrap your head around.. a central bank to a country enslaves the people of that nation, a central bank to the world will enslave us all! if the fed gets audited that is a HUGE step in taking down these criminals. pay attention to that in the coming months. that HAS to happen.
I wish more of your posts were like this one. I think an audit has the legs for a public backing.
QUOTE (nigga pleez @ Jun 12 2009, 01:59 PM)
Operation Northwoods
okay okay, independent research over here. i like it. that's what i'm talkin about. oh and as for someone slipping up.. they have slipped up. i know a lot more than they'd like me to. and it's not a kids game, they take it seriously and make you take blood oaths and will kill you if you betray them. what do you know about false flag terror?
edit: i think one is coming soon.
Whatever, I already identified the key players. And really, if Hulk Hogan was taken out, the others would fall.
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