what what



you don't wanna be a nigga too?

I really like the new N.E.R.D. song.

yeah tpain is gaysauce.

t-pain might be gay but he gets on tracks that make money. kinda like weezy

no doubt cuz.

does anybody have a milli from wayne? the one on his myspace is only like a minute and thirty seconds long.

or is that the whole track?

Anybody with any news or leak of the Deltron Event II cd? I know it's suppose to be out sometime in 2008 according to KidKoala, but nothing yet.

eh?

Heres lil waynes a mili



and N.E.R.D. everyone nose remix feat. kanye, pharell, lupe fiasco, pusha t

Anybody got the Y Society album, Travel At Your Own Pace?

Edit: Nevermind, got it... http://rapidshare.com/files/51752433/YS.rar.html

Password is ill.

Check it out, should be good, Damu The Fudgemunk is awesome.

Could someone up that new Jeezy track with Kanye?

could someone hook me up with the track to this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iha0vSoMBNo

i'll never find that fucking song.

HAHA!

This is a mash-up of Mobb Deep's Shook Ones Pt. II and (LOL) The Smiths - How Soon Is Now?


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oh i know it's a mash-up, i just wish i could find the mp3 version of the song on youtube, i dig it.

I want the cool kids mixtape.

a lot of speculation on the monies i've made
the honies i've slayed
how is he for real? is that nigga really paid?

jay z is overrated.

possible cover for new album

not really. i mean a lot of people do know of him, but they don't give him much credit.

actually a lot of people think he's the greatest of all time for some weird reason.

i think he is probably one of the greatest up there, with pac, biggie, nas, and a few others.

Throw in Soulja Boy 50 Cent and Weezy and you've got Ricky's list.

damn i guess i must love soulja boy if i'm not a rap elitist.

I agree with Ricky.

I think to compare Jay-z to emcees such as Pac, BIG, or Nas would actually lead to a pointless debate...their styles are too different. Jay-z realized his fast rhyming was going nowhere, so he turned into a "studio" rapper, more than a poet/lyricist. He has his one liners in every song, but focuses more along the lines of making a marketable album...I wouldn't blame him, but the media for "forcing" a lot of artists into using this perspective.

Most these artists that get a hit song will never be heard of again because they can't keep making hits or produce quality albums (soulja boy is a good example)...but at least hova continually puts out catchy albums. I am actually surprised Lil Wayne has stayed around as long as he has. I cannot deny that I enjoy most of his full length songs (usually only interested in a few off of his mixtapes), but most of his raps are garbage and the same rhyme schemes and words used over and over again. I am sure there are tons of artists out there with more skill than any of these guys on the radio, but will never be heard because it all comes down to one thing, marketing.

Thadius keeps it real.
check him out

I just think it's really stupid to say Jay Z is overrated. Overrated how? He wrote The Blueprint in two fucking days.

oh 2 days? it shows

I think that being well known and holding a high yearly income should not dismiss any rapper's credibility.

Vol. 1, In My Lifetime - Good
Vol. 2, Hard Knock Life - Sick
Reasonable Doubt - Sick
The Blueprint - Sick
Black Album - Sick
Kingdom Come - Good (underrated, certainly not his best as a whole but it has some really good tracks; Lost Ones, Beach Chair, 30 Something, Oh My God)
American Gangster - Sick

i understand jays buisness skills, he's a very good buisness man. but to say that he's a great rapper is disrespectful to the hundreds of unsung emcees out there who rap as an art form rather than a means to make bank. in this day and age, there' s literally hundreds of rappers out there with better production, creativity, and lyrical prose. these are the motherfuckers that i support and will continue to support. cats like qwel, cyne, and icon the mic king. at the end of the day, all that matters is the sound and the effort that went into that sound. this is why i can't listen to jay. it doesn't matter how long he takes to write albums, his shit just sounds half-assed and insincere.
i honestly want your opinions on the aforementioned emcees.

some more food for thought:
mestizo- rosie
icon- lotus flower
nujabes- feather
qwel- vincent van gogh coke ad

yeah, i'm down with nujabes.

I'll listen later. I don't see how examples of under appreciated emcees somehow shows that Jay Z is overrated. All I wanted to know is why you think he's overrated. I think overrated is a bullshit word. Overrated how? According to whose rating? Just say you don't think he's the greatest rapper of all time, that is fine, I agree. I think most listeners and those associated with hip hop would agree with you. The fact is that he's probably the best mainstream rapper doing it right now and The Blueprint was probably the best and most influential hip hop album of the past 10 years.

You seem to have a problem supporting the mainstream, that's super cool and all, but don't let it cloud your judgment on Jay Z. You see Jay as someone with no creativity, who says the same things over again, who is insincere, and only raps to make bank. I see him as someone who has transcended generations of hip hop listeners, who has released 10 solo albums, 2 of which were 5 mic albums in the source, and sold over 50 million records world wide.

So I think in a number of categories, you could call him the greatest living hip hop artist. If you're judging him purely on lyrical skill, then do that, don't bring in other stuff saying he's insincere and not creative and just wants to make money. You don't get to where Jay Z is right now from lack of effort and insincerity, and you certainly don't get to that point if rapping isn't your passion in life.

plus he's banging beyonce.

Yeah and he's banging Beyonce.

when i said overrated, i meant that there's a lot of people and publications who exalt him for doing shit that i didn't find personally that impressive but okay man, i don't think he's the greatest rapper of all time.



well that's a ridiculously subjective matter, i personally think Aquemini was better and more influential.



i honestly have no problem supporting certain mainstream acts. i love outkast, and nas because they're interesting artists with a lot to say.


oh shit, the source, okay well if the source gave it 5 mics than i can't argue with that. i guess lil kim deserved 5 mics too?


yeah, that shit with rihanna is fiyaaa yo


got me there.

You basically just proved alika's point. The fact that he's sold millions of copy, is precisely because of his business ability. Sure, yeah, he might be the best mainstream rapper. But what does that matter? That only points to his knack for getting himself publicized which ultimately, is to sell his record. For example: He said he was gonna quit; I believe not even a year later, he announced he was come out with another album. Why? So he can sell records.

There's no doubt that he put in a lot of effort for his work. That's where he deserves credit. He knows how to work the public. He's been able to create an entire enterprise out of the current state of public hip hop culture. But... that's about it. That, certainly does not make him one of the greatest rappers of all time. That makes him a great business man.

The fact is there are plenty of other rappers that have infinitely better lyricism, content, and flow.

I agree he's a great business man, what does that have to do with him being overrated? Whatever, this argument could go on forever. I think Jay Z is a great rapper, and I'm sorry you both take such offense to that and cannot enjoy him. Too bad.

It's because you've got people like Ricky who think he's one of the greatest of all time when he isn't. That's what makes him overrated. So I do enjoy him. Just not as much as you all seem to.

andrew

it's all good. you should really check out some of that shit i mentioned , you might find something you like

i feel if we were having this discussion about jay 7 or even 10 years ago some opinions might be different. his time as a dominant lyricist is basically over and he is obviously releasing material that is much more weaker than his older stuff. i personally think he only comes out with new stuff just cuz new rap is so fucking horrible, especially when his worst cd is 10X better than anything soulja boy could dream of spitting.

people forget he was an underground rapper just like your aforementioned artists until someone realized his potential and gave him a shot, you can't hold that against him because he got popular. doesn't make him any worse of an emcee because he sells records and is on the radio/tv.

he's not a businessman, he's a business, man.


overrated? i guess so, but so are 2pac, biggie, etc.

I was literally about to post that sentence.

let me handle my business, damn?

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea...iendid=14040523


check this guy out
way sick

Carter 3 = garbage, with the exception of the track mr. carter.
Lil Wayne = garbage

can someone get me this?