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v30's and gibson pickups. Sounds like you are stealing my style... or jumping on the tone boat!
Sonic Maximizers...
something I should look into?
something I should look into?
I like mine. It's a subtle difference, but a noticable one. Lots of reviews say, "It's like taking a blanket off your speakers." Only thing is you need an effects loop (for the rack one at least, not sure about the pedal one, but I'd assume it is the same).
If you want, I can do a quick with and without sound clip for you tomorrow (in the evening)
If you want, I can do a quick with and without sound clip for you tomorrow (in the evening)
My thoughts about the BBE...
I had one in my rack for a few months. When I played in my room it sounded good. I really liked it. But live it seemed to cause trouble. it made me get lost in the mix. Every smart gearhead I knew told me to drop it. They said it was just killing my sound whether I knew it or not. Believe me I wanted to Keep it. But after I finally bit the bullet and sold it, I never regretted it afterwards. Truth.
Here's the best thing I've read about the sonic maximizer.
I had one in my rack for a few months. When I played in my room it sounded good. I really liked it. But live it seemed to cause trouble. it made me get lost in the mix. Every smart gearhead I knew told me to drop it. They said it was just killing my sound whether I knew it or not. Believe me I wanted to Keep it. But after I finally bit the bullet and sold it, I never regretted it afterwards. Truth.
Here's the best thing I've read about the sonic maximizer.
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sonic maximisers are like a drug. you get one, plug it in and it sounds amazing, everythings so clear, 'like taking a blanket on your amp' whenever you disengage it you feel you've lost all your tone and so feel like you 'need' to have it on all the time. at one point you try turning it up some more to see what its like. woah its even better. turning it down now sounds like you're runining your tone so you constantly keep it high... your friends hear your guitar sound and try to gently tell you that its a bit harsh and piercing. you get annoyed and tell them to go to hell. its only when they give you an interventon and let you A/B their gear with yours that you realise you've been sucked in by a unit designed to make you 'think' like the sound is better. You realise that the unit makes you feel like you need to depend on it more and more. When you finally remove it from your rig, you realise what harm its done and it never gets used again. You feel like you need to tell people your story at support groups so that they don't fall into the trap, and you feel a little better.
Haha, that sounds just like me. Fine, I'll re-evaluate my position on it.
Double Post:
I'm looking into picking up a bass just for recording and playing around with. Any suggestions on something reasonably priced. I don't want a piece of shit, but nothing crazy high end either.
I'm looking into picking up a bass just for recording and playing around with. Any suggestions on something reasonably priced. I don't want a piece of shit, but nothing crazy high end either.
I'll see if i can recommend a bass, but I want to say something about the BBE real quick.
Most high end gear snobs shun that thing. They absolutely hate it. However, I think that if you like what it does to your sound, then by all means use it. Especially if you're an "at home" player. I noticed it sounded great in my room but at the gig it just messes with my tone too much.
Anyway, I would recommend the Squire vintage Jazz bass. It's got Duncan designed pickups and it's supposed to be really solid. Also check out the Rondo music site. They have some killer deals on basses. They're cheap but very reliable.
If you're looking to spend a little more, check out the Schecter stuff.
Most high end gear snobs shun that thing. They absolutely hate it. However, I think that if you like what it does to your sound, then by all means use it. Especially if you're an "at home" player. I noticed it sounded great in my room but at the gig it just messes with my tone too much.
Anyway, I would recommend the Squire vintage Jazz bass. It's got Duncan designed pickups and it's supposed to be really solid. Also check out the Rondo music site. They have some killer deals on basses. They're cheap but very reliable.
If you're looking to spend a little more, check out the Schecter stuff.
I'm not a gear snob by any means. I have a terrible ear for tone, I just like to play. I do like what it does for practice, but we plan on playing shows by the end of the summer, so it would make sense to experiment without it. I didn't know about the problems with playing with it live.
I'll sell em and use the money to buy a bass. Thanks for the tips.
I'll sell em and use the money to buy a bass. Thanks for the tips.
the sonic maximizer's primary purpose (if I remember correctly) is to replace what you lose when running your effects loop. It is not really a tone enhancement tool, more of a correction tool.
I know a lot of people use them on rectos to make them sound "huge", I tried one on my duotone to see what all the hype was about, and that quote you posted couldn't have been more true. During the first 30 minutes I absolutely loved the damn thing, and I kept turning it up and couldn't go back down. Then I yanked it and tried it and realized my amp sounded much better without it...
The only amp that I can think of where a sonic maximizer is a must is the Sovtek Mig series. When I played through one of those things, I felt that there was a slight dullness in the tone that I couldn't get past no matter what speaker I used, but if I got past it the amp would sound sooo awesome
Double Post:
I'm looking into picking up a bass just for recording and playing around with. Any suggestions on something reasonably priced. I don't want a piece of shit, but nothing crazy high end either.
fender deluxe active jazz bass
fender jaguar bass
I know a lot of people use them on rectos to make them sound "huge", I tried one on my duotone to see what all the hype was about, and that quote you posted couldn't have been more true. During the first 30 minutes I absolutely loved the damn thing, and I kept turning it up and couldn't go back down. Then I yanked it and tried it and realized my amp sounded much better without it...
The only amp that I can think of where a sonic maximizer is a must is the Sovtek Mig series. When I played through one of those things, I felt that there was a slight dullness in the tone that I couldn't get past no matter what speaker I used, but if I got past it the amp would sound sooo awesome
QUOTE(Uncle Fundip @ Jun 30 2008, 01:40 PM) [snapback]729601[/snapback]
Double Post:
I'm looking into picking up a bass just for recording and playing around with. Any suggestions on something reasonably priced. I don't want a piece of shit, but nothing crazy high end either.
fender deluxe active jazz bass
fender jaguar bass
QUOTE(Ddjembe Mutombo @ Jun 30 2008, 12:48 PM) [snapback]729629[/snapback]
the sonic maximizer's primary purpose (if I remember correctly) is to replace what you lose when running your effects loop. It is not really a tone enhancement tool, more of a correction tool.
I know a lot of people use them on rectos to make them sound "huge", I tried one on my duotone to see what all the hype was about, and that quote you posted couldn't have been more true. During the first 30 minutes I absolutely loved the damn thing, and I kept turning it up and couldn't go back down. Then I yanked it and tried it and realized my amp sounded much better without it...
The only amp that I can think of where a sonic maximizer is a must is the Sovtek Mig series. When I played through one of those things, I felt that there was a slight dullness in the tone that I couldn't get past no matter what speaker I used, but if I got past it the amp would sound sooo awesome
fender deluxe active jazz bass
fender jaguar bass
I guess it all makes sense now that I think about it. The purpose of the thing is to balance the highs and lows so they reach your ears at the same time. So it works in small environments, but once the sound waves get in a bigger environment, all hell breaks loose. Hmmm. Intriguing. I'll probably sell mine (I actually have two) and buy a bass with the money. Problem solved.I know a lot of people use them on rectos to make them sound "huge", I tried one on my duotone to see what all the hype was about, and that quote you posted couldn't have been more true. During the first 30 minutes I absolutely loved the damn thing, and I kept turning it up and couldn't go back down. Then I yanked it and tried it and realized my amp sounded much better without it...
The only amp that I can think of where a sonic maximizer is a must is the Sovtek Mig series. When I played through one of those things, I felt that there was a slight dullness in the tone that I couldn't get past no matter what speaker I used, but if I got past it the amp would sound sooo awesome
fender deluxe active jazz bass
fender jaguar bass
Eh, I've been suckered into the "drug-like" effect of certain pedals, so I know what that's like and would rather not go through it again.
Ordered my boost pedal for my leads to stand out today and I think I'm finally set as far as effects go. Well, once I get back my line 6 filter modeler, that things been such a hassle. Floor models have been both very good and very bad to me.
Ordered my boost pedal for my leads to stand out today and I think I'm finally set as far as effects go. Well, once I get back my line 6 filter modeler, that things been such a hassle. Floor models have been both very good and very bad to me.
QUOTE(Uncle Fundip @ Jun 30 2008, 12:25 PM) [snapback]729634[/snapback]
I guess it all makes sense now that I think about it. The purpose of the thing is to balance the highs and lows so they reach your ears at the same time. So it works in small environments, but once the sound waves get in a bigger environment, all hell breaks loose. Hmmm. Intriguing. I'll probably sell mine (I actually have two) and buy a bass with the money. Problem solved.
Mine helped buy a guitar too. haha
how much extra tone shaping/enhancement do equalizer pedals allow?
I'm thinking about getting one to improve/mess with my sound.
I'm thinking about getting one to improve/mess with my sound.
QUOTE(James... @ Jun 30 2008, 02:28 PM) [snapback]729670[/snapback]
Mine helped buy a guitar too. haha
That Sonic Maximizer is some sort of wizard. When you play with it, and you bypass it, you think your tone without it is hell. Tonight, I unplugged it before I even turned my amp on. Without it casting its spells on your brain, you seriously realize how much better it sounds without it. Fucking weird piece of machinery. Ebayed
quit it guys, you're making me question my sonic maximizer. It deserves better!
I'll Sonic Maximize you.
QUOTE(Hubert Cumberdale @ Jun 30 2008, 09:21 PM) [snapback]729788[/snapback]
how much extra tone shaping/enhancement do equalizer pedals allow?
I'm thinking about getting one to improve/mess with my sound.
Yes yes yes. Buy one.
This is not techincally a guitar question, but it's gear related.
Our singer got himself of beefy PA speakers. We have a power amp, we just need a mixing board. I have my 8-Track Recorder that has 1/4" Line Outs. In theory it should work. 8-Track>Amp>Speakers. Am I asking for trouble by doing this? This is a temporary thing until he get's a legit mixing board (or finds the power cable to the one he has)
Our singer got himself of beefy PA speakers. We have a power amp, we just need a mixing board. I have my 8-Track Recorder that has 1/4" Line Outs. In theory it should work. 8-Track>Amp>Speakers. Am I asking for trouble by doing this? This is a temporary thing until he get's a legit mixing board (or finds the power cable to the one he has)
i don't know jack about the electrical ins and outs of those things, but I'd definitely say the easiest solution to that problem is to just get a new power cable to the mixing board he already has. Lots of power chords on general appliances are interchangeable, or, he can just take it to radio shack and they can order him one.
Yeah, that's the problem. Sadly it's not a standard one, and on top of that, it's some discontinued design. Go Yamaha.
EDIT: Singer's trying to get a new board today if he's got time. If not, we'll decided if we want to try this tonight. Reading the instruction manual, it should work fine, but they're his speakers, not mine, so we'll see.
EDIT: Singer's trying to get a new board today if he's got time. If not, we'll decided if we want to try this tonight. Reading the instruction manual, it should work fine, but they're his speakers, not mine, so we'll see.
QUOTE(Ddjembe Mutombo @ Jun 29 2008, 11:51 PM) [snapback]729458[/snapback]
v30's and gibson pickups. Sounds like you are stealing my style... or jumping on the tone boat!
Actually, I changed my mind. I'm putting Seymour Duncan Phat Cat's in there. P-90's in nickel humbucker casings so they fit and have less noise.
Going cab testing tomorrow. Gonna play a Mesa oversized and a Bogner Uberkab.
Those are on this list with the VHT and Orange cabs I'm also considering. Trying to narrow it down...
Those are on this list with the VHT and Orange cabs I'm also considering. Trying to narrow it down...
also try out the bogner standard 412 and a mesa traditional.
I really wanted to try a Bogner standard but I couldn't find one.
The Uberkab KILLED everything. It was so much more balanced and opened up. The mesa sounded good, but I wanted something with a very flat response and the recto cab was everything but that. It was fizzy and fat.
I also tried a Marshall with greenbacks just for kicks. It sounded VERY thin to my ears. Very woody and vintage. Not my style at all.
Monty, what do you think about Celestion Classic lead 80 speakers? I hear they're great for modelers which is right up my alley since I have an Axe-FX
The Uberkab KILLED everything. It was so much more balanced and opened up. The mesa sounded good, but I wanted something with a very flat response and the recto cab was everything but that. It was fizzy and fat.
I also tried a Marshall with greenbacks just for kicks. It sounded VERY thin to my ears. Very woody and vintage. Not my style at all.
Monty, what do you think about Celestion Classic lead 80 speakers? I hear they're great for modelers which is right up my alley since I have an Axe-FX
I used to own a bogner shiva 112 cab that was loaded with an '80. It was a really cool speaker. It made my cleans sound a lot more room filling, but when I ran a recto through it, it sounded a little funny, but that could be because I was used to vintage 30s. The speaker itself really doesn't have too much character, so I could see why they would be great for modeling.
Yep that's mostly what I've found too.
I have chance to get a CAE 4x12 loaded with those for $650 or so. I think I'm gonna try to jump on it.
I have chance to get a CAE 4x12 loaded with those for $650 or so. I think I'm gonna try to jump on it.
Damn James you seem to have quite a bit of disposable income for gear, I envy you.
My wallet is a slave to my addiction/I have a lot of old gear to sell.
In the past month or so I've sold.
Mesa Studio Preamp
Digitech GSP1101
BBE Sonic Maximizer
Ibanez RG2550
All that to make way for the Axe-FX and a high quality 4x12. No looking back.
But seriously, besides food and gas. THIS IS MY LIFE.... SAVE ME GOD...
In the past month or so I've sold.
Mesa Studio Preamp
Digitech GSP1101
BBE Sonic Maximizer
Ibanez RG2550
All that to make way for the Axe-FX and a high quality 4x12. No looking back.
But seriously, besides food and gas. THIS IS MY LIFE.... SAVE ME GOD...
QUOTE(James... @ Jul 2 2008, 10:29 PM) [snapback]730485[/snapback]
But seriously, besides food and gas. THIS IS MY LIFE.... SAVE ME GOD...
rent?
You killed it. Killed it like I kill Guatemalan hookers.
QUOTE(john @ Jul 2 2008, 11:20 PM) [snapback]730532[/snapback]
You killed it. Killed it like I kill Guatemalan hookers.
me?
Can't I live in my own fuckin house for now?!
I'm only 18! God damn!
I'm only 18! God damn!
I need to get my Valveking head back into working order. Hopefully that only requires new powertubes. I'm tired of rocking on the Roland Cube practice amp. I need some tube power back in my life.
Oh, and Anthony, even though its a page late:
only if you use a hardwire bypass. maybe?
Oh, and Anthony, even though its a page late:
only if you use a hardwire bypass. maybe?
I have no idea what that means.
I'm going to California for the weekend and the singer is going to have everything necessary for a full practice when I get back.
I'm going to California for the weekend and the singer is going to have everything necessary for a full practice when I get back.
QUOTE(Hubert Cumberdale @ Jul 2 2008, 10:43 PM) [snapback]730611[/snapback]
I need to get my Valveking head back into working order. Hopefully that only requires new powertubes. I'm tired of rocking on the Roland Cube practice amp. I need some tube power back in my life.
Oh, and Anthony, even though its a page late:
only if you use a hardwire bypass. maybe?
As I remember the stock tubes in the valveking are pretty much trash. So that's probably the case.
QUOTE(Uncle Fundip @ Jul 3 2008, 12:17 AM) [snapback]730624[/snapback]
I have no idea what that means.
WELL THEN I GUESS SOMEONE WONT BE DOING ANY SONIC MAXIMIZING HUH?
anthony is going to sonic maximize my butthole.
I played melodic metal so brutal that I bled all over my guitar...
pussy
If it had cut your wrists, it would have been more XemotionalX.
Got a mint VHT 4x12 for $650 shipped today.
I'm celebrating.
I'm celebrating.
QUOTE(Ddjembe Mutombo @ Jul 6 2008, 07:39 PM) [snapback]732214[/snapback]
I played melodic metal so brutal that I bled all over my guitar...
melodic metal FTW
QUOTE(chelsea. @ Jul 7 2008, 07:17 AM) [snapback]732453[/snapback]
that's badass...i would like to see more demonstrations to hear it in action, but that's pretty convenient (for me at least)
it's pretty cool, but i personally wouldn't get it just 'cause i never have a problem with being herd when i play
Looks cool.
If I want to do that I just use my laptop and Guitar Rig. But I guess that one is smaller.
If I want to do that I just use my laptop and Guitar Rig. But I guess that one is smaller.
QUOTE(tns @ Jul 7 2008, 11:20 AM) [snapback]732480[/snapback]
that's badass...i would like to see more demonstrations to hear it in action, but that's pretty convenient (for me at least)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8RQ5VcgxIFE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=8Ng9CtmfqTg
My first electric was a Yamaha Pacifica (low-end model), and I love the guitar's look and playability (my neck seems to feel wider than other pacificas I've played). My only problem with it is the pick ups. I want a decent backup guitar in case something happens with my Les Paul.
Also, I'm kinda considering using it on songs where I switch a lot from clean to heav and vice-versa. It's got two singles and a humbucker. So I want to have the humbucker be a little bit on the heavier, chuggier side. Whereas I want the singles to give it more of a smooth and warm feel, nothing too bright.
Should I bother replacing the pickups, and if so, with what?
or should I just look into saving up to get another nice guitar?
Also, I'm kinda considering using it on songs where I switch a lot from clean to heav and vice-versa. It's got two singles and a humbucker. So I want to have the humbucker be a little bit on the heavier, chuggier side. Whereas I want the singles to give it more of a smooth and warm feel, nothing too bright.
Should I bother replacing the pickups, and if so, with what?
or should I just look into saving up to get another nice guitar?
if anyone's interested, this band Memphis May Fire is selling a Mesa 2x12
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Its only been used on one tour and for rehearsal. Now it just takes up space in my room.
Interested?? Send all inquiries to ryanbentley88@yahoo.com please.Our inbox gets quite crowded, and it will be easier to keep track of anyone interested. Im looking for 300 on this and I can haggle if needed.
Interested?? Send all inquiries to ryanbentley88@yahoo.com please.Our inbox gets quite crowded, and it will be easier to keep track of anyone interested. Im looking for 300 on this and I can haggle if needed.
QUOTE(Tubular Trevor @ Jul 17 2008, 01:31 PM) [snapback]736673[/snapback]
My first electric was a Yamaha Pacifica (low-end model), and I love the guitar's look and playability (my neck seems to feel wider than other pacificas I've played). My only problem with it is the pick ups. I want a decent backup guitar in case something happens with my Les Paul.
Also, I'm kinda considering using it on songs where I switch a lot from clean to heav and vice-versa. It's got two singles and a humbucker. So I want to have the humbucker be a little bit on the heavier, chuggier side. Whereas I want the singles to give it more of a smooth and warm feel, nothing too bright.
Should I bother replacing the pickups, and if so, with what?
or should I just look into saving up to get another nice guitar?
Pacifica's are usually just so-so guitars from the ones I've played. but if you really like it, then I don't see a problem with investing $100 in a pickup or two. But honestly if it was me, I'd just get a new axe.
QUOTE(Shadowskater5671 @ Jul 17 2008, 03:16 PM) [snapback]736720[/snapback]
That's a pretty decent deal. For some reason I'm getting to the point that every time I play a mesa recto cab, I hate the voicing more and more. That boomy sizzle just kills me every time. Maybe I'm getting old... :/
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