So, i have been doing some thinking. I figured that I am going to have a incredibly boring summer here in the 'cuse, so I might as well do something productive and put my electrical engineering knowledge to work. So I decided I am going to attempt to make a clone of the lead circuit in my 800, but with EL84s so its only roughly 18watts. Cut the fx loop and clean channel, but leave the reverb. I don't know if they still make the drakes that are in my 800, so I might go with mercury's. theoretically this should be dope.

edit: i am seriously considering putting the gibson P94's in my SG standard

The you bias it for Class A operation and then sell it to me.

Why would you want the 800 to run class A. That would totally brown sound it and destroy every reason why my amp is awesome.

I love teh browns? lol

Actually, I would rather do that to a plexi than an 800.

And don't you have to switch trannies to bump it down to 18 watts?

i believe so. I would do that anyways since i doubt I can find the vintage drakes that are in mine.

explain
class A and
class A/B sound dont bother with how it works
i wont remember atm

Also Bugera for first tube amp
shit or decent

This is a fairly broad subject and it's very easy to be "technically incorrect" when throwing around terms like Class A and A/B mode, etc... I'll save you the tech talk, but at a minimum you should know that the amp class is determined by how hot the tubes are biased.

Class A amps (higher biased tubes) are rounder, less distorted, and more compressed. Class A/B amps are more explosive and sharp sounding.



Shit. They break down a lot and don't sound all that good.

class A/B is push pull. Meaning 2 tubes work together, thus making a much cleaner sounding signal. The signal is also substantially louder. Class A each tube works individually. This results in less efficiency, less power, and the sound is browner (more vintage sounding).

The majority of tube amps these days are class A/B



EDIT:

I honestly wouldn't touch anything behringer makes that receives and releases an audio signal. Their midi floor board is functional.

Yeah, I can vouch for the midi board but everything else is pretty much trash.

(although I've heard the V-amp isn't that bad. But you wouldn't be interested in that now would you. haha)

V-amp gets the job done for bedroom demos with Tabit drums, that's about it.

Is there any cheap alternative to a Rickenbacker?
And no, Rock Band guitars do not count.

One that I know of.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Agile-Harm-1-Toast-FG-...93%3A1|294%3A50

And yes it's legit. Don't knock agile.

rics are so legit.

I just found this tight picture of my head from the show on monday...

good to know your using a legit roadcase for that thing!

Taking care of a maple neck. what do you do? lemon oil a big no?

naw its a shitty one that came with my 6100 when i bought it used. I just decided shitty case is better than no case.

anyone heard of that marshall mode 4?

I think it's such a fancy-sexy looking amp. But jesus, I think it must sound terrible..I was reading the specs, and it sounds like a glorified AVT(I hate that amp) lol. Anyone ever play one?

Nonononono. Fuck no to lemon oil on a maple neck.

Your natural hand oils should be enough. Honestly.


You guessed correct.

The mode 4 isn't even hybrid. it is 100% SS. It doesn't sound that bad for what it is. I think of plenty of SS heads that sound miles worse. It is very expensive for a 350 watt piece of shit though.

Why John 5 ever used one is beyond me.

That guy has shit taste anyway.

I'm a tube whore myself. in fact, the only hybrid shit I've ever liked came from Markbass.

But whats an actually good SS guitar amp?

There are plenty of awesome SS bass heads (depending on the tone you want). As for guitar amps, the Roland Jazz Chorus is pretty dope. And there are a whole slue of vintage transistor heads that are pretty comparable to their tube counter parts. I also hear the Ampeg vh-140c is a pretty good SS head for the brutal shit.

transistors don't make an amp bad. It is the parts they use to build the amp. You can make a sick guitar amp with transistors if you use good parts and good transistors. The main reason why most SS amps suck is because the companies use shitty resistors, caps, transistors, etc. Also a shitty circuit design. Also they pair them up with a shitty speaker. Up until recent it has made since for beginner amps to be SS since cheap transistors are very very cheap and beginners don't want to have the responsibility or cost of the upkeep of their amp (replacing tubes). Recently companies have realized the vacuum tube hype and have started making tube heads with shitty parts to boost sales and shit (B-52, bugera, peavy). Honestly, transistors don't sound bad as long as you don't push them. This is why there are 1000w bass heads. No one needs that much power, and I am pretty sure that putting the volume knob all the way up with only give you half. Try plugging a decent SS amp into a highend guitar cab and you will see the tone shaping power of shitty speakers.

And then there's the Axe-fx. Whole other story entirely...

Actually I did get a chance to A/B it with my buddy's dual recto the other day. So it was good to do another real world test and see how close I could get.

We plugged the mesa into the loop using 4 cable method and I dialed in his settings. Then I set my midi up to switch from the axe to the recto.

I didn't even have to tweak any special parameters. As soon as the eq and gain was dialed he couldn't tell the difference. He kept switching back and forth with midi and listening really hard. No dice. He finally tried to guess which was which and he guessed wrong. He thought the axe was the real amp.

Dumb question

Would this work:
DSL running at 8 ohms stereo, with both cables from the outs going into the two inputs of my orange cab (rated 16 ohms). Wondering if it'll do anything sound-wise if so?

Why would you want to do that?

More than anything, just to see if it does something sound-wise.

It will do very little sound wise.

See for yourself.

does the orange cab have stereo wiring as an option? a 16 ohm cab in stereo would be 2 8 ohm inputs, so your math is correct.

Saw a band on MTV live.. they were using for bass and guitarist 3 cabs for bass and 8 for guitar.

Bass - i believe to be Fender 8x10's, singe mic'd on each of the 3

Guitar - ?? 4x12, four of the eight straight cabs were dual mic'd both on the top row..

Explain why so many? (diff speaker?), why the double mics? (diff speakers on each again?)

http://forum.orangeamps.com/viewtopic.php?...eo+wired+wiring

I think this guy's talkin' about roughly the same thing I am.
I don't think it's meant for stereo, I thought it was, but I have my orange at my house now (bassist got a new house, so in transition of movin all our stuff and such) and I didn't see any L/R type markings, so I presume it's meant for mono use and daisy chaining only.


In other super sweet news,
I'm ordering my Hollowbody II as soon as I get an email back from the good ol' PRS rep with what I need on my order form.
Then I need to find out where to get a custom truss rod cover done since they just do plain black ones and this guitar's too baller for that.

Looks.

Shame bands do that

damnit I can't wait to get back to austin and buy a bass head. The local bass shop just got a used Eden e300t. That amp looks fucking boss. I also need to drive down to cortland soon to pick up my b3158

as in downstate NY Cortlandt Manor? or some other place named Cortland upstate? haha

there is a city 30 minutes south of syracuse named cortland.

probably only 2 were being used. dummy cabs dont even have speakers in them usually. just makes you look cooler.

ah, i was totally gonna say we should jam if you were coming by me, ha

Hollowbody II w/Piezo

I'm finally ordering the PRS. 8 Months in the making.
I narrowed it down to the Hollowbody II and the Sunburst 22. The Hollowbody is about $1300 more than I was lookin' to spend, but after weighing all my needs and wants, it's what must be done.

PRS Hollowbody II w/Birds, 10 Top and Back Flame Maple, and the Piezo option.
Violin Amber Sunburst finish.

The second I get it, I'm going to be on the search for the sweetest acoustic amp, but I'll cross that bridge later.

Wow...I thought that I was Jealous of Monty's JCM800, but Trevor you have trumped my gear lust as far as saoboardies go. I'm not sure there's any other hollowbody I would pick over that.

One thing though, when you get it let me know how the QC is. I've heard PRS has been slipping on that a bit lately. I'd like to know how they handle a "custom order."

wow, that thing is strait into a PA too, sounds great

Ive got $950 US saved up for a 5150 or a 6505 on ebay.
But problem is australia never has those two heads on auction much so is it worth
just buyin from interntaional or iwll shipping and other charges cost heaps?

It won't be cheap.

You really want a 5150? I'd play one first. I thought I wanted one for years until I actually played it. It was really rough and uncontrollable sounding. To me it sounded only good for really primitive metal.

I agree with James. Plus I've heard nothing but complaints on reliablity by them.

Before we got the JCM2000 we tried out a 6505. I didn't like the distortion on that thing at all. I tried messing around with it for quite a while and it just simply didn't appeal to my ears. When we plugged in the 2000, it was THAT tone for us, it just felt more alive to us. After we bought the jcm one of the guys that works at the shop we got it from told us that they're very expensive amps to maintain.

i like the 5150/6505. You just have to play them through the right cab. The stock cab is shit.

second hand i think they go in the range of $1500-2000AUD.

try having a dig around here. it's a melbourne based site, but you might be able to find someone willing to ship.

I guess thats what it was, I played through that cab.

You guys will appreciate this.

The band I mixed for tonight had some of the sweetest guitar tone I'd ever heard. Rhythm was playing through a Dr. Z Carmen Ghia, and the lead player was playing a Bad Cat Black Cat and a Matchless C-30.

Holy freaking crap. Lead player also had a '72 Gibson ES-335.

I wish I was balling and could afford something like the ENGL Invader.