James...
Jun 7 2009, 07:13 AM
QUOTE (Milo2 @ Jun 7 2009, 06:56 AM)

Whats something that can be done to my Ibanez that will improve it somehow
ie new pots or whatever, just somehting to keep my guitar solid and at its best
while i save for a cab
There's not too much you can do to a guitar like that.
CTS pots - better dynamics on the volume.
Upgrading the edge III bridge - probably not worth it on that guitar.
Note
Jun 8 2009, 07:40 PM

I want this guitar so bad. I got to save up a grand which will take forever but I hope to one day have it. I never have played one before so I can't say its a done deal but yeah.
James...
Jun 8 2009, 07:43 PM
I've played 1 or 2 of them. I owned the EC-2005 for a few years. Really solid guitar. The 1000 isn't any better than the cheaper models but it looks cooler I guess. They are made in Korea and the QC is actually quite good.
Note
Jun 8 2009, 09:21 PM
The cheaper models don't come in that vintage black color though do they? That's what really has me about the look of it in addition to the gold hardware.
Tubular Trevor
Jun 8 2009, 11:24 PM
Tubular Trevor
Jun 8 2009, 11:31 PM
QUOTE (The Real Tyler @ Jun 8 2009, 09:40 PM)


I want this guitar so bad. I got to save up a grand which will take forever but I hope to one day have it. I never have played one before so I can't say its a done deal but yeah.
My rhythm guitarist and I were all about those guitars til we actually played 'em.
I don't like the way the neck feels and I've never been much for active pickups.
3 of my buddies swear by them though, so it's definitely just a matter of preference.
Jesse.
Jun 9 2009, 09:07 AM
QUOTE (Tubular Trevor @ Jun 9 2009, 02:24 AM)

jiiiiiiiiizz
Note
Jun 9 2009, 09:10 AM
QUOTE (Tubular Trevor @ Jun 9 2009, 12:31 AM)

My rhythm guitarist and I were all about those guitars til we actually played 'em.
I don't like the way the neck feels and I've never been much for active pickups.
3 of my buddies swear by them though, so it's definitely just a matter of preference.
Yeah i'm going to have to play them. I just haven't came across one yet to try out. Your PRS is nice man. I couldn't ever see myself playing a semi hollow/hollow body guitar but I like the way they look alot lately.
Ddjembe Mutombo
Jun 9 2009, 09:11 AM
that's a nice looking guitar.
James...
Jun 9 2009, 11:59 AM
QUOTE (The Real Tyler @ Jun 8 2009, 09:21 PM)

The cheaper models don't come in that vintage black color though do they? That's what really has me about the look of it in addition to the gold hardware.
That's the only model besides the ESP variant that comes with the adornments.
Don't expect it to feel anything like an LP. The necks on those EC models are like nothing I've ever felt before. If I had to put a name on it, I'd say it's a lot like the old Wizard necks in how it's pretty wide and sort of slim, but not to the extreme that Ibanez did it. Kind of like a "wizard-lite" if you will.
If you aren't a fan of EMG's don't get it. They are a waste on that guitar. Get something more organic sounding like Duncans or whatever else. Mine had the 81/60 set and it didn't sound much "ballsier" than the other countless double cutaway 4lb guitars I had with EMG's.
iwontbreak custom
Jun 9 2009, 12:00 PM
QUOTE (The Real Tyler @ Jun 8 2009, 08:40 PM)


I want this guitar so bad. I got to save up a grand which will take forever but I hope to one day have it. I never have played one before so I can't say its a done deal but yeah.
i had one for a while...played pretty well. i liked it while i had it.
Note
Jun 9 2009, 05:50 PM
QUOTE (James... @ Jun 9 2009, 12:59 PM)

That's the only model besides the ESP variant that comes with the adornments.
Don't expect it to feel anything like an LP. The necks on those EC models are like nothing I've ever felt before. If I had to put a name on it, I'd say it's a lot like the old Wizard necks in how it's pretty wide and sort of slim, but not to the extreme that Ibanez did it. Kind of like a "wizard-lite" if you will.
If you aren't a fan of EMG's don't get it. They are a waste on that guitar. Get something more organic sounding like Duncans or whatever else. Mine had the 81/60 set and it didn't sound much "ballsier" than the other countless double cutaway 4lb guitars I had with EMG's.
Oh the necks wide, I don't know if i'll like it then. I'm going to have to call around some places to see who has them to tryout because guitar center never does.
James...
Jun 9 2009, 06:58 PM
QUOTE (The Real Tyler @ Jun 9 2009, 05:50 PM)

Oh the necks wide, I don't know if i'll like it then. I'm going to have to call around some places to see who has them to tryout because guitar center never does.
It's probably not as bad as you think. The wizard is a pretty extreme example. And it only took me about a week to get cozy with the wiz.
Honestly it's a lot more like a Les Paul Classic than any Wizard I've played.
Uncle Fundip
Jun 9 2009, 08:29 PM
Mmmmmmm Trevor
James...
Jun 9 2009, 08:29 PM
MAN FUCK YOU TREVOR I GOT JIZZ ALL OVER MY KEYBOARD CAUSE OF YOU
Ddjembe Mutombo
Jun 10 2009, 06:42 PM
dhours7
Jun 10 2009, 08:11 PM
Ok im looking to buy a new cab for my Triamp MKII.... Im currently running a mesa with V30'S SLANT....But now days its just not cutting it for me.... I need a more focused bottom end with a tighter sound, also with good or decent highs....... What are your opinions as to what you think I should try, or get?...
thanks alot...---Bray
Chris O'Neil
Jun 10 2009, 08:36 PM
do you turn your mids way down when you EQ?
dhours7
Jun 10 2009, 09:32 PM
I think the mids are at like 10:30 or 11 o clock...I believe.... Im looking at the Orange cabs with g12k speakers.... also I wanna try umm a rivera cab since Im obsessed with the kr100...
Ddjembe Mutombo
Jun 10 2009, 10:00 PM
is the mesa a standard or traditional size? Try out a marshall 1960BV. Try a bogner 412 as well. The triamp sounds best through v30 cabs in my opinion. The mesa standard cab is way too boomy for the head though. Orange cabinets are pretty deep so they might be a little more boomy than you want as well.
Tubular Trevor
Jun 11 2009, 09:41 AM
I'm goin' downtown to check out some guitar shit.
Specifically checkin' out Tom Anderson and Suhr guitars and anything that resembles a badass strat.
(Also checkin' out Orange, Bogner, and any other ballin' head I see)
I'm pretty sure I at least one some sort of non-humbucker. I'm open to P90 style and Singles, but I'm intrigued at TA's description of their mini humbucker being something like SRV without downtuning and using thicker gauged strings.
James...
Jun 11 2009, 05:38 PM
QUOTE (dhours7 @ Jun 10 2009, 09:11 PM)

Ok im looking to buy a new cab for my Triamp MKII.... Im currently running a mesa with V30'S SLANT....But now days its just not cutting it for me.... I need a more focused bottom end with a tighter sound, also with good or decent highs....... What are your opinions as to what you think I should try, or get?...
thanks alot...---Bray
The cab you are describing is a VHT fatbottom.
dhours7
Jun 11 2009, 05:59 PM
QUOTE (Ddjembe Mutombo @ Jun 10 2009, 11:00 PM)

is the mesa a standard or traditional size? Try out a marshall 1960BV. Try a bogner 412 as well. The triamp sounds best through v30 cabs in my opinion. The mesa standard cab is way too boomy for the head though. Orange cabinets are pretty deep so they might be a little more boomy than you want as well.
Yeh well im looking for somethng where I can get more of a focused sound.... I wanna try the Rivera Seven cabinent.... that cab is supposed to have huge bottom end...
Ddjembe Mutombo
Jun 11 2009, 06:35 PM
what kind of music do you play? The Triamps were designed for vintage 30's and/or greenbacks. I don't really think you will like the tone of greenbacks.
dhours7
Jun 11 2009, 06:57 PM
QUOTE (Ddjembe Mutombo @ Jun 11 2009, 07:35 PM)

what kind of music do you play? The Triamps were designed for vintage 30's and/or greenbacks. I don't really think you will like the tone of greenbacks.
I like saosin and stuff like that..... but Im wanting more of an aggressive sound..... im almost thinking of getting a rivera kr100 head or even that rivera kr7 thing...
James...
Jun 11 2009, 07:01 PM
QUOTE (dhours7 @ Jun 11 2009, 07:57 PM)

I like saosin and stuff like that..... but Im wanting more of an aggressive sound..... im almost thinking of getting a rivera kr100 head or even that rivera kr7 thing...
No I'm serious. You need to try a VHT fatbottom. Do it.
Ddjembe Mutombo
Jun 11 2009, 07:03 PM
ENGL powerball or Mesa recto is about as aggressive as you will get. You really have to know how to eq the recto though, otherwise they sound like dick. The deliverance gets pretty aggressive too.
Keep in mind that the tone you hear on albums is severely altered with compression and EQ. A lot of shit like mud is taken away and there is a lot of attack/punch added to make the guitar sound more agressive.
edit: so as some may know I am selling my triamp on ebay. I put it up as buy it now or best offer. I have no offers, but someone is watching the auction. I think someone wants to see how much my amp sells for.
Also I consigned my duotone at a local orange dealer in hope do get a good discount on the ad30 and rocker 30, but the dicks there said they could only give me 5%. There excuse was shipping was expensive and that the amps are heavier than others. That is 100% bullshit. Orange's US amps are assembled in the US so shipping isn't any more than any other local amps. and oranges happen to be lighter than most amps i have played. I just called up the other local dealer who just opened up and I am going over there tomorrow to work out a price. This other dealer is new, so I am sure they will go low just to make a sale.
But seriously 5%. thew will be make $325 if my duotone sells (they are selling it for 1299). Could they atleast knock $325 off the price of the combination of the 2 amps? What dickheads.
James...
Jun 11 2009, 07:44 PM
If he wants an aggressive amp, the powerball is about the ballsiest thing this side of hell. It just doesn't get any more cock crushing than that thing.
dhours7
Jun 11 2009, 10:15 PM
Hey how do you like the Orange rockerverbs?>... I know jim from slipknot, is touring with them... there a pretty aggressive band......
...............yeh I maybe have to try those Vht fat bottoms....
Ddjembe Mutombo
Jun 11 2009, 10:26 PM
The closest comparison I can give to you for the rockerverb 50 is...
the lead channel sounds like an 800 with a little recto flavor. the clean channel sounds like dick. the reverb isn't even usable; like at 9 o'clock you are already in space.
i haven't played the rockerverb 100, but my assumption is that the clean channel sucks even more dick and the lead sounds a little less recto. This is based on my knowledge of the difference between the 6V6 and EL34s.
My favorite is the rocker 30. the clean channel is actually good. the lead channel doesn't have as much gain on tap, but its much more organic sounding that the rockerverb. sounds like a hot rodded 800.
the amp line can go as far as hard rock. but that is pushing it in my terms. I feel like all the versatility of these amps is based in the gain structure, but you can't get metal gain... it just gets muddy. The amp isn't tight like the triamp. it is much more honky. I think the drive is somewhat similar to channel 2B, but it's more honky than 2B.
James...
Jun 12 2009, 06:25 AM
QUOTE (dhours7 @ Jun 11 2009, 11:15 PM)

Hey how do you like the Orange rockerverbs?>... I know jim from slipknot, is touring with them... there a pretty aggressive band......
...............yeh I maybe have to try those Vht fat bottoms....
Like Monty said, you aren't going to go any farther than hard rock with a Rockerverb. And Jim Root only uses the Orange with Stone Sour, which is a much less aggressive band. With Slipknot he uses the over the top Rivera shit.
dhours7
Jun 12 2009, 07:36 AM
QUOTE (James... @ Jun 12 2009, 07:25 AM)

Like Monty said, you aren't going to go any farther than hard rock with a Rockerverb. And Jim Root only uses the Orange with Stone Sour, which is a much less aggressive band. With Slipknot he uses the over the top Rivera shit.
Yeh jim used the rockerverb 100 for stone sour, but hes running basically the same rig for slipknot as well.....in one of his gear interview things he says, that hes just using the rockerverb distortion, and isn't boosting it with pedals to get more saturation, except when he has leads..
How is the Soldano hot rod 50+? compare to the rockerverbs?
Ddjembe Mutombo
Jun 12 2009, 08:00 AM
soldano hot rods are the same thing as a the avenger or slo. rockerverbs have plenty of gain on tap, but its not very usable after 2 o'clock unless you play stoner metal.
James...
Jun 12 2009, 10:02 AM
QUOTE (dhours7 @ Jun 12 2009, 08:36 AM)

Yeh jim used the rockerverb 100 for stone sour, but hes running basically the same rig for slipknot as well.....in one of his gear interview things he says, that hes just using the rockerverb distortion, and isn't boosting it with pedals to get more saturation, except when he has leads..
How is the Soldano hot rod 50+? compare to the rockerverbs?
Well now you know why Slipknot has shitty live tone.
Soldano is its own thing. But be careful. A lot of people seem to think Soldanos have a lot of uber gain on tap, when they actually don't. They have about as much gain as a JCM800 on steroids.
dhours7
Jun 12 2009, 02:24 PM
QUOTE (James... @ Jun 12 2009, 11:02 AM)

Well now you know why Slipknot has shitty live tone.
Soldano is its own thing. But be careful. A lot of people seem to think Soldanos have a lot of uber gain on tap, when they actually don't. They have about as much gain as a JCM800 on steroids.
Yeh I can 100% agree there...... Idk Im going to have to try to do as much research on the Vht,Orange, and Soldano as I can before I make a purchase...
Ddjembe Mutombo
Jun 12 2009, 04:04 PM
your location says santa barbara. Just drive to LA for a day and hit up a bunch of guitar shops. You can find any head you could possibly want to play in LA.
edit: i forgot to add that i went to that new orange dealer to negotiate prices. As you may know, the other dealer (in which i consigned my duotone at) only said they could give me a 5% discount since the shipping was expensive. This other dealer knocked a cold $500 off of the total of the two amps. even though I have gotten 25% deals before, a 17% off deal on orange is pretty good in my book. Most people won't budge on orange.
fdit: all i have to do now is sell the duotone and i can stock up on some ampage.
James...
Jun 12 2009, 04:49 PM
QUOTE (Ddjembe Mutombo @ Jun 12 2009, 05:04 PM)

your location says santa barbara. Just drive to LA for a day and hit up a bunch of guitar shops. You can find any head you could possibly want to play in LA.
edit: i forgot to add that i went to that new orange dealer to negotiate prices. As you may know, the other dealer (in which i consigned my duotone at) only said they could give me a 5% discount since the shipping was expensive. This other dealer knocked a cold $500 off of the total of the two amps. even though I have gotten 25% deals before, a 17% off deal on orange is pretty good in my book. Most people won't budge on orange.
fdit: all i have to do now is sell the duotone and i can stock up on some ampage.
Too bad you don't live with me Monty. The largest Orange dealer in the nation is 45 minutes up the road.
Ddjembe Mutombo
Jun 12 2009, 05:00 PM
orange's product line isn't that big.
Also the people that push a lot of certain brands usually are the least willing to budge.
James...
Jun 12 2009, 05:40 PM
It depends on the store. Atlanta Music brokers sells Taylor stuff almost exclusively and they gave me 20% off my GS series that was originally $2300.
Ddjembe Mutombo
Jun 12 2009, 08:11 PM
i am stoked. A guy on the muse board is probably buying the triamp from me. Now i just need to push the duotone.
dhours7
Jun 12 2009, 08:26 PM
I actually moved from SANTA Barbara..... I now live in St George UTAH...... sucks alot ... but vegas is like hour and a half from where I live..... so I may take a trip there to find some stuff out..
Tubular Trevor
Jun 12 2009, 08:50 PM
Man, I originally set out to check out strat type guitars in good Ol' SLC, but seriously, a PRS McCarty with the 57/08's and a coil tap on smoked most strat type guitars I've played in both sound and playability. I still need to see if PRS will hook a brother up with some free pickups even though I didn't pay street price so I can throw the 08's in my Les Paul.
I played the PRS Original Sewell Amp, cool, but definitely not worth the money being asked for it.
Then rocked the orange line. First time I've tried out an AD30 without trying to do uber heavy stuff, I really loved it. The cleans were really nice and glassy and then it'd crunch pretty nice and had good articulation. They had a rockerverb 100 head that I really didn't dig, but the Rockerverb 50 is still my favorite by far. The cleans were really lush and bassy, and I love the over the top reverb. I agree with Monty though, past about 8 o'clock it gets really spacey. I'm still pretty dead set on getting one.
I was told there was an SLO100 at guitar center, but I was lied to. That's the only other amp I really want to try before I buy the RV50.
Ddjembe Mutombo
Jun 12 2009, 09:21 PM
QUOTE (Tubular Trevor @ Jun 12 2009, 11:50 PM)

Man, I originally set out to check out strat type guitars in good Ol' SLC, but seriously, a PRS McCarty with the 57/08's and a coil tap on smoked most strat type guitars I've played in both sound and playability. I still need to see if PRS will hook a brother up with some free pickups even though I didn't pay street price so I can throw the 08's in my Les Paul.
I played the PRS Original Sewell Amp, cool, but definitely not worth the money being asked for it.
Then rocked the orange line. First time I've tried out an AD30 without trying to do uber heavy stuff, I really loved it. The cleans were really nice and glassy and then it'd crunch pretty nice and had good articulation. They had a rockerverb 100 head that I really didn't dig, but the Rockerverb 50 is still my favorite by far. The cleans were really lush and bassy, and I love the over the top reverb. I agree with Monty though, past about 8 o'clock it gets really spacey. I'm still pretty dead set on getting one.
I was told there was an SLO100 at guitar center, but I was lied to. That's the only other amp I really want to try before I buy the RV50.
play the AD30 with a tele. push channel 2 to like 3 o'clock gain and crank the master. it is like heaven is singing. Have you tried the Rocker 30? I much prefer it over the rockerverb. I don't find the clean on the rockerverb very usable, and I don't like the extra gain stage either. I like to have only as much gain as I need on an amp. That is the only thing that bugs me about the rocker is that it has a little more than I need, but it still sounds great at lower gain settings.
edit: i like the 30 more than the 50 cause the drive sounds a lot more raw and organic.
fdit: i guarantee that almost every one that posts in this thread wouldn't like the SLO if they played it. I love the avenger, but there are other things I need to buy before I would get it.
James...
Jun 13 2009, 06:01 AM
QUOTE (Tubular Trevor @ Jun 12 2009, 09:50 PM)

Man, I originally set out to check out strat type guitars in good Ol' SLC, but seriously, a PRS McCarty with the 57/08's and a coil tap on smoked most strat type guitars I've played in both sound and playability. I still need to see if PRS will hook a brother up with some free pickups even though I didn't pay street price so I can throw the 08's in my Les Paul.
I played the PRS Original Sewell Amp, cool, but definitely not worth the money being asked for it.
Then rocked the orange line. First time I've tried out an AD30 without trying to do uber heavy stuff, I really loved it. The cleans were really nice and glassy and then it'd crunch pretty nice and had good articulation. They had a rockerverb 100 head that I really didn't dig, but the Rockerverb 50 is still my favorite by far. The cleans were really lush and bassy, and I love the over the top reverb. I agree with Monty though, past about 8 o'clock it gets really spacey. I'm still pretty dead set on getting one.
I was told there was an SLO100 at guitar center, but I was lied to. That's the only other amp I really want to try before I buy the RV50.
The PRS Sewell amps are just rebadged Sewells with an upcharge. There is no difference in sound.
Try a Dr. Z Maz 38. You'll be in heaven if you like AC30/Orange.
QUOTE (Ddjembe Mutombo @ Jun 12 2009, 10:21 PM)

fdit: i guarantee that almost every one that posts in this thread wouldn't like the SLO if they played it. I love the avenger, but there are other things I need to buy before I would get it.
Agreed. I tried the SLO for a while and it was really not my thing. Too much gain to be a jcm800 and not enough gain to be a metal amp. It's only good for leads IMO, and a really hard amp to dial in. The gain character is just wacky on that thing.
Ddjembe Mutombo
Jun 13 2009, 07:34 AM
yeah, the SLO is a lead amp. I could get some good rhythm tones out of it though. It just takes some time.
Uncle Fundip
Jun 13 2009, 09:20 AM
To dhours (I'm on my phone so no quote). If you do go to Vegas, your only real bet for boutique amps is Cowtown guitars. They update their website constantly, so check it out before you make the drive. Other than them, selection in Vegas is pretty shitty (I lived there for a year and a half and was horribly disappointed by the selection)
Ddjembe Mutombo
Jun 13 2009, 10:12 AM
gahhh the wait is killing me. I have a confirmed buyer for the triamp, but i have to wait until monday to get the pricing for shipping insurance. I don't want to buy the oranges until i have the money sitting in my paypal. today and sunday are going to be some long days.
Uncle Fundip
Jun 13 2009, 10:18 AM
Write some metalcore while you're waiting
Ddjembe Mutombo
Jun 13 2009, 10:19 AM
haha i am working on that. That and drums are the only thing holding me over... well and lonestar.
Milo.
Jun 15 2009, 07:03 PM
Novice Question:
Master Volume controls what
Gain pulls the its i dunno GAIN from power amp section?
Volume does what?
Im confused on what section works from where and whats better for like metal and whats better
for cleans and such
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