Victory are complete assholes. Shady fucking assholes.

victory obviously doesnt know whats good or bad for them. they signed shit like Hawthorne Heights and Aiden. i havent checked or their label lately, but im sure only like 1/6 of the bands are good, so whats good to them isnt exactly what everyone else likes too.

But Hawthorne Heights and Aiden will make them quick money, because they're popular among the scum of the earth (see random thread). So when the scum of the earth labels them (not popular anymore) Victory will just pick up some more popular bands. I mean look at it right now, ive heard one song from Hawthorne Heights and the scum arn't talking about them much anymore.

yes you're right that those shit bands make them money, but that only adds to how they dont know good from bad. its good they are getting money off these bands, but signing shitty bands really makes you a bad label, no matter how many scenesters love it.

So for a label:

Quick money = good
Losing money for a long time, but have signed a few good bands = not so good

I'm just looking at it from a business point of view.

I really dont understand moronic people. A label's main interest is to make money. Its a fucking business. They dont give a fuck if they are promoting no talent assclowns, as long as they make money. The people who fucking bitch and moan about terrible bands being signed by "good" labels are just as stupid as the people buying/listening to the stuff. Get a fucking grip and realize the music industry doesnt revolve around you, the 15 yearold cry baby who gets a hard-on when they think theyre the only one listening to "good music".

Dear Diary: jackpot.

EDIT: Victory used to be one of the better hardcore labels around, about 3-5 years ago.
(ie: Earth Crisis, Strife, Integrity, Ringworm, Shutdown etc...)
and if I'm not mistaken Refused and Snapcase used to be on it as well.

ahmen.

thank you andy. my point was that a sucessful business doesnt nessicarily make it a good label. good music = good label, good money but shit bands = bad label

according to the

dude what the fuck are you talking about? every time you insult me it makes less sense, its more just like you have to do it, its your drug, like you cant live without somehow trying to insult me. go to fucking bed.

I CANT GO TO BED. I HAVE TO INSULT YOU. NO, I NEED TO INSULT YOU. ITS MY DRUG.


IM LOOKING FOR YOUR PICTURE IN THE MEMBER PIC POST THREAD AND ITS NOT THERE!!! DID YOU DELETE THE URL TO IT SO I COULD NO LONGER REPOST IT? WHATS WRONG BUTT-CUT? EMBARASSED ABOUT YOUR 1994 HAIRCUT AND YOUR BEADY EYES? PSORIASIS IS COOL I SWEAR!

i really cant believe you constantly tell me to get a life since i have a taste for science fiction, anime, video games, etc, where as you spend your free time harassing someone you dont even know. you're a fucking joke.

I also spend my freetime participating in physical activity indoor and outdoor (OH WATCH OUT FOR NATURAL SUNLIGHT!), porking girls, drinking copious ammounts of liqour, and rocking jaws. Harassing people on the internet falls around #11 of my hobbies.

and you act like gundam and such are 100% are my activities.

No I would say it makes up only 50%. The other 50% is made up of not only anime and video games like you said, but also auto-asphyxiation and smelling your mother's undergarments. You have sweet hobbies.

um...nope. wrong

theres more to me than robots and video games. and the undergarments and such are not part of me at all.

By the way, anyone who bashes on labels and bands... while you're all bashing them, they're out every night playing shows and having fun and maybe even making more money than you are. So I'm pretty sure they don't care if anyone says they suck.

O RLY!?

why's it always gotta be owls?

.......

Hahaha, isn't that the ugly singer from Bane?

good move, old chap

shit man. that's the most worthwhile thing i've ever read from you. it actually wasn't a waste of time. very well put. i'm proud. clap clap.

you are so clever how do you live with yourself

hmm lets get back to this topic.

i used to love Ferret but they have too much crap now. LoveHateHero is one of the worst bands ive ever heard in my life.

<-----Still the undisputed, undefeated, champion of the world.

my hero

invite me to the wedding guyz..

Victory carries 3 of my favourite bands.

diy labels 4 lype.

well i like
EVR a lot
and fueled by ramen
is not bad.

init records
level plane
react with protest
deep elm records
ape must not kill ape
caulfield records
crank!

Fucking A

vagrant has some good bands on it but i heard their ceo is a greedy asshole
i really like equal vision (besides armor for sleep)

EVR's definetely my favorite label, without question (Fall of Troy, Circa, FBTMOF, Snake Cross Crown, Chiodos, Bear v Shark, ect)


I saw a commercial for Hawthorne Heights, that said something along the lines of

"Pop music is dead. Victory Records - playing good music blah blah blah"


That just made me hate them more.

equal vision is easily the best label in the industry

i al so enjoy death do us part

I think you completely missed the point.

I agree in part with both Russ and SignalToNoise. It'd be nice to have a label who cared about the musical output, but in such an economically driven world, it's not going to happen. I'd rather accept that labels are going to support shitty bands, and take the good with the bad.

didnt we already have a favorite label thread?

thanks i can read. i know what the title of the thread is, moron.

No one started this thread to bash labels. This thread was taken out of another thread just to highlight Russ and Stephen's argument.

So seriously people, stop saying what labels you like and don't like and why, it's just dumb.

russ and stephen are bad at arguing

Its not that Im bad, Im just too good at ending it before it starts.

so yeah i hate death do us part

no its just that you care.

way too much.